CHRISTMAS - NOT REALLY

[DRMIZER]

For God's sake, what is this season about? It begins somewhere in July and carries us through December 24th. Christians refer to it as Christmas, the birth of Christ celebration. Economists refer to it as the last quarter. Businesses refer to it as a saving grace to their business for the year.

I remember when Christmas celebrations, advertisements, decorations, buying, began the day after Thanksgiving. When we went to church there was a separation about the baby Jesus and the secular world.

This season has turned into a scham! The Thanksgiving Day Parade is about selling New York, TV, Rockettes, Movie and music stars and finally Santa Claus. This season is about money, selling and buying. HSN, QVC, et. al have added to the ease of shopping. So has the internet. People can now sit at their computers at midnight in their birthday suits and order gifts for everyone.

When is the day coming when we call Christmas something else. It needs a new name. Christ-mas it is not. It is anything but.

I remember a Seinfeld episode where George's father created a new celebration called "Festivas". All there was was a metal pole and the family made remarks about and to the people in their life which ended in an arm wrestling event between George and his father.

The point is, it is sacreligious to presume this is a religious holiday. Christmas is buy, buy, buy, drink, party, party, buy. I'm over 50 and have been to a lot of parties during the holidays. I can't remember any reference being made to the birth of Jesus at any of them (with the exception of church functions).

We should examine our motives. Separate Christmas from just secular buying and then we could tell the real Christians from the heathens.

Someone is going to add that of course Christians buy gifts, etc. to which I agree. But, anymore it's hard to tell the jew from the gentile, the religious from the atheist at this time of year.

Any suggestions?

[Duo_Maxwell]

welcome to capitalism. It has no shame. :whack:

[xexon]

For the record, Jesus was born sometime in the spring.

If you refer to the bible about the shepards tending their flocks, they only do that in the spring, when the rains come. Thats the only time there is any grass on the hills. When the spring rains come. April, most likely.

December 25th was originally a pagan holiday. (Yule Day) The church had a habit of cancelling out pagan holidays by installing a Christian holiday on top of them.

And now you know the rest of the story.



x

[Duo_Maxwell]

that and the human spirit would really like to have a holiday in the middle of winter, where everything is dead.

Purtians banned the pratice. THen they got overthrown. shows ya that fun cannot be put down for long.

[Simon666]

Originally posted by Duo_Maxwell
welcome to capitalism. It has no shame. :whack:
Yes, I find this especially ironic. I have visited the Vatican and what struck me was the number of souvenir shops set up at a place where God is supposed to be honored. The only thing that pissed Jesus off enough to make him whip people violently with his belt - the only occasion in the Bible where Jesus goes violent to my knowledge - were the merchants at the temple selling stuff in God's name.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by xexon
For the record, Jesus was born sometime in the spring.

If you refer to the bible about the shepards tending their flocks, they only do that in the spring, when the rains come. Thats the only time there is any grass on the hills. When the spring rains come. April, most likely.

December 25th was originally a pagan holiday. (Yule Day) The church had a habit of cancelling out pagan holidays by installing a Christian holiday on top of them.

And now you know the rest of the story.



x I knew the rest of the story already. The fact is Christmas is celebrated for the birth of Christ. Is there a spring celebration I've missed?

Good point. Why doesn't the church designate a spring date to celebrate Christ's birth. Then what would happen around this time of year as a substitute?

[ranger]

Drmizer - "When is the day coming when we call Christmas something else. It needs a new name. Christ-mas it is not. It is anything but. "

Actually, the season is now called the "Holiday Season", has nothing to do with the birth of Christ. It runs from Thanksgiving thru New Years Day. You never see "Happy Birthday Jesus" signs in the malls or on businesses. You see Santa, Frosty, gifts, movies, lots of pagan decorations. This season is not religious in nature anymore.

Christians on the other hand celebrate the season of advent, Christmas day, and the 12 days of Christmas. We have birthday cakes for the Christ Child, go to church to celebrate his birth with our neighbors, exchange gifts in his honor, sing happy birthday. We spend the season contemplating on the impact Christ had on this earth.

It does not matter when we celebrate it because no one knows for sure what day Christ was born.

So you see. There is a religious holy season that coexists with the pagan "Holiday Season".

If you do not wish to celebrate then don't. Don't attack Christians because you don't agree with them.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by ranger
Drmizer - "When is the day coming when we call Christmas something else. It needs a new name. Christ-mas it is not. It is anything but. "

Actually, the season is now called the "Holiday Season", has nothing to do with the birth of Christ. It runs from Thanksgiving thru New Years Day. You never see "Happy Birthday Jesus" signs in the malls or on businesses. You see Santa, Frosty, gifts, movies, lots of pagan decorations. This season is not religious in nature anymore.

Christians on the other hand celebrate the season of advent, Christmas day, and the 12 days of Christmas. We have birthday cakes for the Christ Child, go to church to celebrate his birth with our neighbors, exchange gifts in his honor, sing happy birthday. We spend the season contemplating on the impact Christ had on this earth.

It does not matter when we celebrate it because no one knows for sure what day Christ was born.

So you see. There is a religious holy season that coexists with the pagan "Holiday Season".

If you do not wish to celebrate then don't. Don't attack Christians because you don't agree with them. That wasn't my point. My point was that Christmas isn't Christmas any more. True it's the Holiday Season. We HAVE to be PC. But to me, it all gets lost in the hubbub and the length of it starting in July. :)

[cpwill]

Originally posted by DRMIZER
I knew the rest of the story already. The fact is Christmas is celebrated for the birth of Christ. Is there a spring celebration I've missed?


EASTER:D

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by cpwill
EASTER:D Duh. I was referring to a "birth" celebration in the spring.