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earth
05-18-2004, 07:19 AM
I'm curious. More with the religious people here than the naysayers. Mainly because I do believe in a higher power, that's just me. Now that brings us to the question of what/who is God?

I personally think it could be a number of things. I think it's just energy. Pure energy. That which resides inside all of us. IMHO the biggest problem with our society is that, in our grand journey to find "God" we've ignored the fact that he's been here all along. He's in you. He's in me. He's in our pets. He's in our trees.

mataj
05-18-2004, 07:28 AM
There are many Gods out there but there is no God like the Great Old Cthulhu. He is my favorite. I envision him as a magnificant being with octopus shaped head, cute tentacles, bat-like wings, scaled body, and poisonous talons on His hands and feet.

earth
05-18-2004, 07:29 AM
Shub- Niggarath! The goat of a thousand young! aaaaaaaaaaaieeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii aaaaaaaaaaaeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

earth
05-18-2004, 07:30 AM
Being a huge fan of Lovecraft lore I actually believe in part a lot of what he wrote about. Some of his stories were based upon fact from his father's life.

mataj
05-18-2004, 07:33 AM
Lovecraft's works are True, because they were inpired by the all mighty Cthulhu.

cpwill
05-18-2004, 07:33 AM
er, typically i really kinda don't. sorry.....

DeathMonkey
05-18-2004, 03:16 PM
"God is coming. And she is PISSED."

No, seriously, Arioch is often depicted as a beautiful yound lad, with soft feminine features, but with an air of corrupt masculinity around him. His true form, however, would drive men mad, as it would with ALL the Dukes of Hell.

Texsand
05-18-2004, 03:35 PM
God is love for me, unconditional love.

Gale_Force15
05-18-2004, 03:56 PM
God is a big white haired guy with a twinkle in his eye, a love of ham rolls, and an odd sense of humor.

2ruballa
05-18-2004, 04:00 PM
A mind without a body.

Texsand
05-18-2004, 04:01 PM
God is a big white haired guy with a twinkle in his eye, a love of ham rolls, and an odd sense of humor.
But this guy with an odd sense of humor would never have created gays? I think it's precisely what he'd do.

Gale_Force15
05-18-2004, 04:08 PM
i said odd, not perverted. Besides, why create gays when he could just put guy-lovers in Women Bodies?

crawfish
05-18-2004, 05:18 PM
Will I risk ridicule by making a serious response? ;)

I believe God is a being that exists on a higher dimensional plane that ourselves, outside of space and time and not limited by the laws of time and nature. He created the universe and us within it, and allows it to progress untouched unless petitioned by one of us. Past, future and present are meaningless to him. In fact, gender as we know it is also meaningless, so the term "he" and "she" carrys no connotation other than the relationship of God to his people.

Among other things.

Gale_Force15
05-18-2004, 05:23 PM
I hate Meta-Physics.

DeathMonkey
05-18-2004, 08:43 PM
A mind without a body.

...the inverse being true of said followers :devil:












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Patriot
05-18-2004, 09:12 PM
I'm curious. More with the religious people here than the naysayers. Mainly because I do believe in a higher power, that's just me. Now that brings us to the question of what/who is God?

I personally think it could be a number of things. I think it's just energy. Pure energy. That which resides inside all of us. IMHO the biggest problem with our society is that, in our grand journey to find "God" we've ignored the fact that he's been here all along. He's in you. He's in me. He's in our pets. He's in our trees.

D&C 130: 22
The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.

In the Godhead there are three personages, 1) God the Father, 2) God the Son, and 3) God The Holy Ghost. Three Gods who are one in purpose.

God the Father has a perfected, gloried body, as does the Son. However, the Holy Ghost is a Spirit only.

The best example of what and who God is can be found in Jesus Christ. He was alive in the premotal life (before physical creation), came to earth to get a body, and died yet was resurrected with an immortal body, and will return again with that same body never to be separated from it again.

If Jesus Christ can be fully God and be in a body, so can the Father be fully God and have a body.

Like Father, like Son. What we know of Jesus shows us exatly what The Father is like, an eternal being with a perfected, gloried body. Like Son, like Father.

earth
05-19-2004, 02:13 AM
D&C 130: 22
The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.

In the Godhead there are three personages, 1) God the Father, 2) God the Son, and 3) God The Holy Ghost. Three Gods who are one in purpose.

God the Father has a perfected, gloried body, as does the Son. However, the Holy Ghost is a Spirit only.

The best example of what and who God is can be found in Jesus Christ. He was alive in the premotal life (before physical creation), came to earth to get a body, and died yet was resurrected with an immortal body, and will return again with that same body never to be separated from it again.

If Jesus Christ can be fully God and be in a body, so can the Father be fully God and have a body.

Like Father, like Son. What we know of Jesus shows us exatly what The Father is like, an eternal being with a perfected, gloried body. Like Son, like Father.

That's the Bible though. What's your personal opinion or do you just stick to what the Bible tells you?

eugene40
05-19-2004, 03:42 AM
If there is one mind you.... I think South Park got it right... it is a short hairy purple in color, cross between looking like a troll or a fury squatty little dragon looking creature. :D

mataj
05-19-2004, 03:48 AM
Will I risk ridicule by making a serious response? ;) None intended

I believe God is a being that exists on a higher dimensional plane that ourselves, outside of space and time and not limited by the laws of time and nature. He created the universe and us within it, . . . Who created a higher dimensional plane? God's God?

Countium
05-19-2004, 03:53 AM
I believe he sits on his Throne, smokes weed all day and watches QVC.

It's a viable reason why the world is such a ****hole and so much suffering goes on everyday.

Patriot
05-19-2004, 04:14 AM
That's the Bible though. What's your personal opinion or do you just stick to what the Bible tells you?

I will directly answer your questions, but first I want to clarify a bit.

Well, yes it is the Bible, but only LDS/Mormons believe it. What I mean by that is that modern day Christianity believes in the Trinity. One God manifested in three ways; but one God. Whereas we believe there is three separate persons, each a God, therefore three Gods one in purpose, not one in person.

So it's uniquely an LDS/Mormon perspective on God. My Bishops has two counsellors, so a bishopric is made up of three individuals; bishop, a first counsellor and a second counsellor.

And we have the added benefit of additional scriptures, namely, The Book of Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants & The Pearl of Great Price. Further, we believe in Living Oracle, meaning modern day prophets like Abraham or Moses for example, starting with Joseph Smith on through todays Prophet, Gordon B. Hinckley.

My opinion: Through personal experience, I have come to know Jesus Christ and our Father in Heaven. I gained this sure knowledge in part because of my efforts or faith, but more so because I fully believed in the promise of the scriptures that by and through the power of the Holy Ghost we can come to know the truth of all things, even the truth about God; the kind of being He is, what we worship, why we worship, etc.

By the Holy Ghost I've learned that the LDS doctrine is true and living; so I accept the doctrine as truth. So technically it isn't opinion, rather, it's revelation from God. All persons can receive personal revelation from God in they apply themselves to the laws thus ordained therein.

JustinH
05-19-2004, 05:20 AM
I believe God is a massive figment of the immagination, orginially created by elitests to keep the poor in line (ie "Do this or you will burn in a horrible place for eternity"). I figure he still exists in the minds of some, because they are uncomfortable with the idea of living, knowing that in death there is nothing.

i said odd, not perverted. Besides, why create gays when he could just put guy-lovers in Women Bodies?

Interesting... God was the creator of everything except gay people?

cpwill
05-19-2004, 06:46 AM
no, God created merely people with the ability to sin or not; people then sin on our own.

and how do you account for the millions of people who claim to have met this "massive figment of the imagination created by elitists"; especially how do you account for the relative lack of a hellfire theology present in the Old Testament (it rather disrupts the creation theory)

mataj
05-19-2004, 07:06 AM
no, God created merely people with the ability to sin or not; people then sin on our own.Wrong. Free will is just an illusion. In reality, we all are just telephatically controlled Great Cthulhu's little robots. We think we have free will, because He wants so.

Texsand
05-19-2004, 11:03 AM
i said odd, not perverted. Besides, why create gays when he could just put guy-lovers in Women Bodies?
There you go with your hate comments again GF. Besides what you do you think a transexual is but then you already know.

Countium
05-19-2004, 11:36 AM
I figure he still exists in the minds of some, because they are uncomfortable with the idea of living, knowing that in death there is nothing.

Except Peace and not having to get up for work.

Redheat
05-19-2004, 12:08 PM
I see god in the face of a child

In the eyes of an animal

In the clouds that float by

In the waves that roar to shore

In the earth as it's plowed up readying itself for the seeds of life

In every human being be they black, white, christian, non christian, gay, straight, young, old, pierced, or tattooed

In Buddah, Ganesha, Vishnu, shiva, the Great Spirit or any other symbol that allows you to feel faith

As a man as a woman

As anything you want God to represent or not represent.

crawfish
05-19-2004, 01:53 PM
None intended

Who created a higher dimensional plane? God's God?
That question would be impossible to answer. In a dimension where time is no constraint, does creation as we know it even have meaning? Creation implies "beginning"...if there is no beginning, does there need to be creation?

crawfish
05-19-2004, 01:55 PM
I believe God is a massive figment of the immagination, orginially created by elitests to keep the poor in line (ie "Do this or you will burn in a horrible place for eternity"). I figure he still exists in the minds of some, because they are uncomfortable with the idea of living, knowing that in death there is nothing.

Even secular historians will disagree with this. God (religion) has certainly been used by elitists, but the concept was definitely not created by them.

BFPierce
05-19-2004, 02:50 PM
If there actually is a God who sent his son to spread the word, then the fanatical right wingers are in big trouble come judgment day. I doubt God or his Son will take kindly to all the things they have done in his name. So, enjoy your stay in this world, boys, cuz I'm pretty sure the next one is gonna be one you ain't gonna like.

barciad
05-19-2004, 03:06 PM
Some geezer who could sing like Frank Sinatra/freddie Mercury, play guitar like Jimmy Page and Jonny Marr, write books like George Orwell and Alexander Dumas, write songs like John Lennon and Paul McCartney, possess a wit like Oscar Wilde, a knowledge like Robert Peel, Bat like Don Bradman, bowl like Malcom Marshall, speak like Alec Guiness, and have the heart and soul of Gandhi mixed with Nelson Mandella and Martin Luther King. That type of person I would deem god-like, what about you?

TomAZ
05-19-2004, 11:56 PM
I see god exactly as the bible describes him;
A human being with a belly-button.


" he created man in his own image"..

Larani
05-21-2004, 07:05 PM
Wrong. Free will is just an illusion. In reality, we all are just telephatically controlled Great Cthulhu's little robots. We think we have free will, because He wants so.


Welcome to the Matrix :lol: :lol: :lol:

trombone
05-23-2004, 02:58 PM
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