Christian Code

[bama47]

I found this on one site and I agree with it. Just my opinion and beliefs.


Chrisitan Code
All Christians are under obligation to seek to make the will of Christ supreme in our own lives and in human society. Means and methods used for the improvement of society and the establishment of righteousness among men can be truly and permanently helpful only when they are rooted in the regeneration of the individual by the saving grace of God in Jesus Christ. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death. Every Christian should seek to bring industry, government, and society as a whole under the sway of the principles of righteousness, truth, and brotherly love. In order to promote these ends Christians should be ready to work with all men of good will in any good cause, always being careful to act in the spirit of love without compromising their loyalty to Christ and His truth.

Exodus 20:3-17; Leviticus 6:2-5; Deuteronomy 10:12; 27:17; Psalm 101:5; Micah 6:8; Zechariah 8:16; Matthew 5:13-16,43-48; 22:36-40; 25:35; Mark 1:29-34; 2:3ff.; 10:21; Luke 4:18-21; 10:27-37; 20:25; John 15:12; 17:15; Romans 12-14; 1 Corinthians 5:9-10; 6:1-7; 7:20-24; 10:23-11:1; Galatians 3:26-28; Ephesians 6:5-9; Colossians 3:12-17; 1 Thessalonians 3:12; Philemon; James 1:27; 2:8.

[Strel]

Too bad the drafters of the Bible didn't include some provisons about minding their own damn business and letting other people live their lives as they wish.

Hmmm....or maybe they did, in the red print stuff in the back?

[xexon]

You might be amazed at how closely this resembles what Moslems believe in.

All religions agree that a certain amount of morality is needed to clease the mind and open the heart.

Its the techniques that cause all the problems in religions today. Especially when it is forced on someone who isn't ready.



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[gopman]

"Too bad the drafters of the Bible didn't include some provisons about minding their own damn business and letting other people live their lives as they wish"

But it's a good thing that the drafters of the constitution gave everyone the right to say whatever they want.

[painesadvocate]

wow
god knows how many pages are in the bible and the good parts make up a paragraph
i'll stop by a hotel and get a copy and pick out all the bad parts and make a thread about that, that would be interesting
it not only resembles what the muslims belive in, it also covers judiasim and the majority of so called pagan belif systems that were destroyed by the ever so loving christian leadership

[painesadvocate]

AHHH NO WAIT I MISSED SOMETHING
homosexuality
damn you i live next to a damn lesbian
is there something so wrong with her expresssing her own feelings
is it a crime for her but not for you?
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other than that i agree with you though

[bama47]

You tell me the Bible has many references to unnatural affections and homosexuality. Tell God about it. His rules. No every feeling we have is not good. If it were we would be perfect.

[Voice Of Reason]

Originally posted by bama47
You tell me the Bible has many references to unnatural affections and homosexuality. Tell God about it. His rules. No every feeling we have is not good. If it were we would be perfect.


God says Love the Sinner but hate the sin.....

[cpwill]

indeed. which is why we should always strive to be accepting of homosexuals without being accepting of homosexuality.

[bama47]

Your right Voice of Reason. I do not hate the person just the sin.

[xexon]

Lets put you folks to the test then.

Would you extend this same courtesy to Saddam and Osama ?

They too, are human somewhere in their hearts.


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[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by bama47
You tell me the Bible has many references to unnatural affections and homosexuality. Tell God about it. His rules. No every feeling we have is not good. If it were we would be perfect.

The bible writers had some BIG hangups about sexuality. Read other parts too. Remember that when the bible was written, women were property and had no rights. It was forbidden for women to pluck their eyebrows and, the glory of a woman is in her hair and should not be cut . So, if we really do the literal thing in the bible you can't pick and choose, ya gotta take it all!

Do you think the writers who wrote the above statements about women could also be a little off kilter about homosexuals? No? Hummmmmm. Well, I personally think they could have AND sexual orientation is just that, orientation, not a choice.

[Blueangel]

You've also got to bare in mind that the writers of the Bible we're persecuted and oppressed by the Roman Empire, who largely accepted homosexuality.

What better way of getting all your grudges and prejudices off your chest than to claim that it's the word of God?

Point in fact...
The Bible also condemns taxation and money lenders.
At the time, these were both predominantly issues relating to the rule of Rome, yet who today doesn't have a mortgage or credit?
Should we ban taxation because it's decryed in the Bible?

Hang on a minute...that's not a bad idea! :D

[Blueangel]

Originally posted by Voice Of Reason
God says Love the Sinner but hate the sin..... I hate to break the news to you, but God didn't say anything!

If everything in the Bible is truely the word of God and not subject to the influence of the writers, who imposed the gagging order on him?
I'm not trying to be disrespectful here, but with one best seller to his credit, you'd think He'd have written or authorised the writing of the sequel for modern society by now.

Even in the Bible, the only words that are irrefutably claimed to be the word of God, are the Ten Commandments.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Blueangel
I hate to break the news to you, but God didn't say anything!

If everything in the Bible is truely the word of God and not subject to the influence of the writers, who imposed the gagging order on him?
I'm not trying to be disrespectful here, but with one best seller to his credit, you'd think He'd have written or authorised the writing of the sequel for modern society by now.

Even in the Bible, the only words that are irrefutably claimed to be the word of God, are the Ten Commandments.
Wonder whatever happened to those videos and tapes they used to "record" this information. . . .they have to be around here somewhere. . . . .if we could only find them, then we could REALLY quote.

[Blueangel]

Originally posted by DRMIZER
Wonder whatever happened to those videos and tapes they used to "record" this information. . . .they have to be around here somewhere. . . . .if we could only find them, then we could REALLY quote. Yeah! Like they couldn't be tampered with...:D

When someone starts a sentence with "God says.....", I switch off.

I'd far sooner see someone say that they have come to their conclusions because their beliefs lead them to feel that is the correct response. I want to see people take responsibility for their conclusions and not credit them to an entity that I can't reason with. I want to see free will.

We all know roughly what causes various natural disasters, yet we still refer to them as 'Acts of God.'

I get equally as narked when I hear people say "It is Allah's will."

It doesn't take God for me to realise that good people sometimes do bad things. It doesn't take God for me to decide to forgive.
It's my sole responsibility, my thought processes, my morality and my decision.

[SantaMonica]

When taken literally and on face value alone it sounds frighteningly similar to the ranting of OBL to the apostates of Islam.

Probably why there exists many "factions" within the Christian religion. Fundamentalism exists in all religions. That doesn't mean that ALL Christians are Fundamentalists.

[Blueangel]

True.

If you put the word 'fundamentalist' in front of anything, I run in the opposite direction :p

I honestly believe that all religions are flawed because they are the creation/interpretation of man, and mankind is intrinsicaly flawed.

I'm a decent, law abiding citizen, yet the faith I was brought up in rejects me because I dared to leave a violent marriage.
How does that work out?
How is that fair?

I'm one of millions of people in the same position.

The law of the land respects my wishes and endeavours to protect me, yet the faith I was brought up in doesn't.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Blueangel
True.

If you put the word 'fundamentalist' in front of anything, I run in the opposite direction :p

I honestly believe that all religions are flawed because they are the creation/interpretation of man, and mankind is intrinsicaly flawed.

I'm a decent, law abiding citizen, yet the faith I was brought up in rejects me because I dared to leave a violent marriage.
How does that work out?
How is that fair?

I'm one of millions of people in the same position.

The law of the land respects my wishes and endeavours to protect me, yet the faith I was brought up in doesn't.
You ain't just whistln' Dixie, sister!

:angel: Amen :angel:

[cpwill]

Originally posted by Blueangel
Even in the Bible, the only words that are irrefutably claimed to be the word of God, are the Ten Commandments.

and all that stuff in the red print in the back....;)


and i would say that in these "modern" times i still find that that old bestseller pretty much addresses what i need it to address.

[Strel]

The stuff in red print in the back of the Bible is the only stuff worth reading, IMHO. That's the good stuff.

Too bad the fundys don't read it more often and the OT less often...

[bama47]

Don't listen to what mans tells u or your religion. Jesus called most religions Vipers in his day.

Just read and believe what Jesus said or did. Proverbs and Psalms are excellent books along with James and Esphesians.

[Captain America]

Proverbs and Psalms are excellent books

But aren't those books in the OLD testament? The OLD covenant? The same testament that tells us to kill our children if they misbehave? The same testament that says "Happy is he who dashes his children upon the rocks?" The testament that glorifies David for killing thousands of Philistines and cutting their ***** off? The same testament that reborn christians say is no longer the law?

Jesus is God? The same God that supposedly inspired the old testament? Or is he a new god that says "When I was that old god, directing Moses, I was mistaken. Forget those laws, here are some news ones for ya. Follow these instead."

Clear this up for me. One bible-thumper tells me "We are under a new covenent" and another quotes the old testament. Confusing:confused: :confused:

But considering all the other unbelievable myths, legends, and fairy tales, in the bible, the above, in comparison, is as easy to believe as the rest I would imagine.

If one is the sort that can believe in the new testament, or old testament for that matter, they can psyche themselves up to believe about anything.

La la la la la la la............"Have you heard the word of the Lord today? <Twilight Zone theme song plays here> Do do do do, do do do do....:lol:

[bama47]

Jesus came not to get rid of the old law, but to fulfill it. That being mercy or grace. The old law still applies. I know society doesn't want to hear it, but yes if a child will not repent of his rebellious ways you could kill him under the law. But again we live under grace now so you don't have to. Psalms and Proverbs are relevant in 2003 and 2004 and until Jesus comes back.

Seriously how many children would act up or be out of control if some were stoned as an example. I think you would see a change. I know you would.

For instance when I was a kid my dad could legally beat me with a belt, switch or his hand. I was a a well behaved child my friend.

[Blueangel]

Originally posted by bama47
Seriously how many children would act up or be out of control if some were stoned as an example. I think you would see a change. I know you would. And you dare to call yourself a Christian?!!! :(

I believe you're views are seriously disturbed for you to even think that way.
I sincerely hope that you are not a true example of whichever faith you belong to.

[xexon]

I have to stick up for Bama in this account.

I too, am from the "spare the rod, spoil the child" camp.

When we had punishment in this country, kids were much better behaved. It may seem harsh in the modern day, but I tell you, IT WORKED .

More than I can say for what I see around me today.



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[KWJams]

Stoning may be a little extreme.
Discipline can be taught in better ways.

But on the opposite extreme, I know of people who get stoned with their kids. :(

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by KWJams
Stoning may be a little extreme.
Discipline can be taught in better ways.

But on the opposite extreme, I know of people who get stoned with their kids. :(

Awe, I don't know. . . . .I've seen a few kids who NEEDED stoning! :lol:

[mahayana]

Jesus reportedly did have some words for his fellow jews, as they were about to stone an adulterous woman to death;

"Let him without sin cast the first stone."

I think deciding to act like Christ is an excellent idea. "Judge not...God will judge us all," to paraphrase.

One glaring absense from this "Christian Code" is pacifism. Jesus said "Love your enemy. Do good to those who do evil to you."

Also a vow of poverty. Jesus told the rich young man to take all he had and give it to the poor.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by mahayana
Jesus reportedly did have some words for his fellow jews, as they were about to stone an adulterous woman to death;

"Let him without sin cast the first stone."

I think deciding to act like Christ is an excellent idea. "Judge not...God will judge us all," to paraphrase.

One glaring absense from this "Christian Code" is pacifism. Jesus said "Love your enemy. Do good to those who do evil to you."

Also a vow of poverty. Jesus told the rich young man to take all he had and give it to the poor.

Also a vow of poverty. Jesus told the rich young man to take all he had and give it to the poor.
I know a lot of people in this country bound for hell!

[gopman]

Trickle down doesn't count?

[mahayana]

I have a great deal of sympathy for Jesus and for those who wish to emulate him. The first Christian New Testament I owned had all the words attributed to Jesus in red print. All together, I would guess they would fill ten or twelve typed pages.

He told stories (parables), preached a sermon on the Mount (blessed are the peacemakers,etc), and taught his followers to pray "Our Father (not MY father) who art in Heaven..."

When asked "are you the Messiah" he answered "What do you say?", and he was apparently executed because the leaders of his religion considered him a heretic.

One of my favorite Jesus quotes: "the Kingdom of Heaven is within you."

We could use more people like Jesus. IMHO

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by gopman
Trickle down doesn't count?

You're probably right!

[Captain America]

Awe, I don't know. . . . .I've seen a few kids who NEEDED stoning!

But I would not feel so all alone...everybody must get stoned.
*********************************Bob Dylan

[mahayana]

There was another Bob Dylan lyric that referred to Churches as "social clubs in drag disguise."

He was much more interesting as a folk singer protesting nuclear war and social injustice than as a born-again.

I do pay attention to everything BD/Zimmerman writes and consider him a poetic genius. One more quote:

"There are no truths outside the Gates of Eden."