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rex_b
06-30-2004, 09:47 PM
Almost like a question of the day isn't it.



Also try to answer what a Protestant is.

I'll give you a chance to answer before I give the answer, hmm that sentence sounded funny.

USA-1
06-30-2004, 09:49 PM
Kennedy?

cpwill
07-01-2004, 01:30 AM
yupsters

Seth928
07-01-2004, 01:40 AM
duh...

rex_b
07-01-2004, 01:59 PM
Yep ding ding ding..

Why do you think that is?

Djj1973
07-01-2004, 02:27 PM
Why Rex?

some_crazy_red
07-08-2004, 08:40 PM
A protestant is a Christian who is not catholic, essentially. And Kennedy was catholic. Therefore he werent protestant.That is all.

MikeD4o7
07-08-2004, 10:49 PM
Lincoln was an atheist, and Jefferson was deist... is this test just concerning what religion they were born into?

Jerry_Ulan
07-29-2004, 02:48 PM
Was it Kennedy?

Malone1234
07-30-2004, 03:30 AM
Yeah, Jefferson was definitely not part of any official Christian denomination. Check it out: The Jefferson Bible (http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/) He rewrote most of the New Testament and took out anything designated as "miraculous".

cpwill
07-30-2004, 03:58 AM
:confused: lincoln wasn't athiest.

cpwill
07-30-2004, 04:21 AM
i think probably he was agnostic, but certainly closer to christian than athiest

That I am not a member of any Christian Church, is true; but I have never denied the truth of the Scriptures




http://wisdom1.jjnet.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=4&search=Abraham%20Lincoln

MikeD4o7
07-30-2004, 08:00 AM
Do you know the context and circumstances of that quote cpwill? Because my sources and Lincoln quotes shape quite a different picture, and a very clear one.

"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."
-- Abraham Lincoln, to Judge J. S. Wakefield, after Willie Lincoln's death (Willie died in 1862)

"It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity."
-- Abraham Lincoln, Manford's Magazine, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, p. 144

"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession."
-- Abraham Lincoln (quoted by Joseph Lewis in "Lincoln the Freethinker")

Oh, that [his Thanksgiving Message] is some of Seward's nonsense, and it pleases the fools.
-- Abraham Lincoln, to Judge James M. Nelson, in response to a question from Nelson: "I once asked him about his fervent Thanksgiving Message and twitted him with being an unbeliever in what was published." Quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, p. 138

I am approached with the most opposite opinions and advice, and that by religious men, who are equally certain that they represent the Divine will. I hope it will not be irreverent for me to say that if it is probable that God would reveal His will to others, on a point so connected with my duty, it might be supposed that He would reveal it directly to me ... These are not, however, the days of miracles.... I must study the plain, physical facts of the case, ascertain what is possible, and learn what appears to be wise and right.

-- Abraham Lincoln, in a speech to an assembly of clergymen regarding the struggles he was having over the Emancipation Proclamation that would soon be issued (1862), quoted from Susan Jacoby, "One Nation, Under Secularism" (January 8, 2004)


http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/qframe.htm

MikeD4o7
07-30-2004, 10:28 AM
Sorry, didn't catch the first part of your post cpwill.

"i think probably he was agnostic, but certainly closer to christian than athiest".

I'm pretty sure that what I consider an atheist, you consider an agnostic... so I can agree with that. I would disagree that he's closer to christianity though.