DRMIZER
10-22-2003, 11:04 AM
When I was a younger man, churches were churches. There were the mainstreamers and then there were the Apostolics or "holy rollers" (that's what we called them back then).
The mainstream denominations were the usual and customary types the majority of Christians attended. The "holy rollers" were the churches where their members acted out by rolling in the isles, spoke in tongues, shouted and some even played with snakes and drank poisons. This was a simpler time when by-gones were by-gones. Everyone did their own thing without degrading the other for their beliefs.
During the last decade or so the trend has reversed itself. There has been a revival in the Evangelic-types who have broken tradition, changed the services and have excluded themselves from all the rest of the churches. They actually believe they have re-invented the wheel (religion). They are the apostolic crowd who are separated from the rest of the world and, in their own "Christian" way snub their noses at the rest of the "outsiders" who don't follow their specific dogma.
Their mantra is to be "BORN AGAIN", as though they invented the term. After all, before this generation got here, no one had ever been born again. They perch the sign of the Christian on the back of their car symbolized by a fish. On other vehicles they hail the WWJD sticker.
For the most part, I can let this rest. Their religion doesn't bother me. . . . . .until. . . . . . .During this same period of time godhucksters like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and the scores of other "Evangelicals" have used their stumps to solicit votes for the conservative party; the Republicans.
Pat Robertson, whose father was a Virginia Senator, whom I knew, would slap his son in the face for such vulgar lies he tells about people. . . .people who happen to be liberals. That alone makes them heathens! The great senator would turn over in his grave for the shame his son has brought to his family.
Jerry Falwell did everything possible to destroy President and Mrs. Clinton including publishing lies about Vince Foster's death. After all, the Reverend Falwell did intimate they killed him or had him killed. ALL FROM HIS PULPIT IN THE NAME OF RELIGION!
With the number of preacher freaks on television and radio, preaching hatred for liberals, it is now IMPOSSIBLE to be a born again Christian unless you are a Republican! So this is Christianity today!
It's the Conservative born agains who demand religious rights with the 10 commandments, prayer in schools, at football games, etc. You know something. . . if you would have kept your mouths shut over the years, the ACLU would never have looked at you. But, you just have to be out there, yapping away, as if the entire world was in a religious quandry!
But Apostolics, that really isn't the agenda is it? The agenda isn't about religion. The real agenda is getting our man into political office so that we Christians can rule the country the way we see it. Isn't that what you hear EVERY TIME you listen to one of your broadcast preachers?
My belief is this: The number of wars fought over religion, including the present one, has contributed to the death of more humans than any other cause. When you lie about people, stain and tarnish their lives because their ideology is different from yours simply to get your way, then you become dangerous as well. I paraphrase but it's like, "Jerry (Pat) said it, I believe it, that settles it."
Forgiveness of any kind is not in the vocabulary of the right-wing Christian fanatic, (unless under specific circumstances below). For example, when Clinton was caught with his pants down, the conservative world got on the critical bandwagon and are still on it some five years hence. We didn't pray for Mr. Clinton, that he would see the light or that he would be forgiven of his sins, or even pray for his leadership of our country. The montra was "impeach, impeach, impeach" That lying SOB should be thrown to the wolves. He has no morals, he has no soul. . . .ban him to Hades.
Ironically, now that a successful talk show host has a "prescription" problem, we wish him the best, we pray for him, we forgive him, we know how hard it must be to kick the habit and go through withdrawal. Yet, if his housekeeper didn't "out" him, he would still be doing DRUGS! Rush Limbaugh has lied, had 5 wifes, and a drug user. But that's okay, he's conservative. Shame on you.
I think I can quote Christ on this one, "You hypocrites". "Remove the log from your own eye before you try to remove the speck from your own eye."
Some of you need to go back to the basics, fall on your knees and ask forgiveness for yourselves. Some need to stop listening to the hate mongers who want to rule the world the way they see it.
You know, in the end, it's how you treated your brother on this earth. And Christians...... liberals, with all their preceived faults and beliefs are your brothers!
The mainstream denominations were the usual and customary types the majority of Christians attended. The "holy rollers" were the churches where their members acted out by rolling in the isles, spoke in tongues, shouted and some even played with snakes and drank poisons. This was a simpler time when by-gones were by-gones. Everyone did their own thing without degrading the other for their beliefs.
During the last decade or so the trend has reversed itself. There has been a revival in the Evangelic-types who have broken tradition, changed the services and have excluded themselves from all the rest of the churches. They actually believe they have re-invented the wheel (religion). They are the apostolic crowd who are separated from the rest of the world and, in their own "Christian" way snub their noses at the rest of the "outsiders" who don't follow their specific dogma.
Their mantra is to be "BORN AGAIN", as though they invented the term. After all, before this generation got here, no one had ever been born again. They perch the sign of the Christian on the back of their car symbolized by a fish. On other vehicles they hail the WWJD sticker.
For the most part, I can let this rest. Their religion doesn't bother me. . . . . .until. . . . . . .During this same period of time godhucksters like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and the scores of other "Evangelicals" have used their stumps to solicit votes for the conservative party; the Republicans.
Pat Robertson, whose father was a Virginia Senator, whom I knew, would slap his son in the face for such vulgar lies he tells about people. . . .people who happen to be liberals. That alone makes them heathens! The great senator would turn over in his grave for the shame his son has brought to his family.
Jerry Falwell did everything possible to destroy President and Mrs. Clinton including publishing lies about Vince Foster's death. After all, the Reverend Falwell did intimate they killed him or had him killed. ALL FROM HIS PULPIT IN THE NAME OF RELIGION!
With the number of preacher freaks on television and radio, preaching hatred for liberals, it is now IMPOSSIBLE to be a born again Christian unless you are a Republican! So this is Christianity today!
It's the Conservative born agains who demand religious rights with the 10 commandments, prayer in schools, at football games, etc. You know something. . . if you would have kept your mouths shut over the years, the ACLU would never have looked at you. But, you just have to be out there, yapping away, as if the entire world was in a religious quandry!
But Apostolics, that really isn't the agenda is it? The agenda isn't about religion. The real agenda is getting our man into political office so that we Christians can rule the country the way we see it. Isn't that what you hear EVERY TIME you listen to one of your broadcast preachers?
My belief is this: The number of wars fought over religion, including the present one, has contributed to the death of more humans than any other cause. When you lie about people, stain and tarnish their lives because their ideology is different from yours simply to get your way, then you become dangerous as well. I paraphrase but it's like, "Jerry (Pat) said it, I believe it, that settles it."
Forgiveness of any kind is not in the vocabulary of the right-wing Christian fanatic, (unless under specific circumstances below). For example, when Clinton was caught with his pants down, the conservative world got on the critical bandwagon and are still on it some five years hence. We didn't pray for Mr. Clinton, that he would see the light or that he would be forgiven of his sins, or even pray for his leadership of our country. The montra was "impeach, impeach, impeach" That lying SOB should be thrown to the wolves. He has no morals, he has no soul. . . .ban him to Hades.
Ironically, now that a successful talk show host has a "prescription" problem, we wish him the best, we pray for him, we forgive him, we know how hard it must be to kick the habit and go through withdrawal. Yet, if his housekeeper didn't "out" him, he would still be doing DRUGS! Rush Limbaugh has lied, had 5 wifes, and a drug user. But that's okay, he's conservative. Shame on you.
I think I can quote Christ on this one, "You hypocrites". "Remove the log from your own eye before you try to remove the speck from your own eye."
Some of you need to go back to the basics, fall on your knees and ask forgiveness for yourselves. Some need to stop listening to the hate mongers who want to rule the world the way they see it.
You know, in the end, it's how you treated your brother on this earth. And Christians...... liberals, with all their preceived faults and beliefs are your brothers!