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DRMIZER
12-13-2003, 05:39 PM
An appeals court today refused Gov. Jeb Bush's request to disqualify a St. Petersburg judge from hearing the constitutional challenge to ``Terri's Law.''

In a ruling last month, Circuit Judge W. Douglas Baird said that the newly passed law that allows Bush to keep Terri Schiavo alive with a feeding tube is depriving the brain-damaged woman of her ``constitutional right to privacy.''

Bush said the judge's comments made him an ''advocate'' and and the governor's attorney asked Baird to remove himself from the case. When Baird didn't, Bush appealed.

In a five-page decision, a three-judge panel of the Second District Court of Appeal said Baird's statements are not cause to remove him. Some of Baird's comments, the panel said, correctly reflect the law, while others were recitations of holdings by the appeal court itself, which has made several rulings in the Schiavo case over several years.

One of those appeal rulings affirmed a lower court's decision to allow the feeding tube to be removed.

''A determination that legislation impinges on a person's right to privacy is not equivalent to a conclusion that the legislation suffers from a constitutional infirmity,'' the three-judge panel wrote. Baird's ''comments constitute his legal views that reflect appellate decisions of the probate court contest'' between Terri Schiavo's husband and guardian, Michael, and Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, the appeal court said.

Schiavo, 40, suffered a heart failure in 1990 that put her in what doctors say is a persistent vegetative staet. Five years ago, her husband, Michael, began a legal battle to have her feeding tube removed, saying he was responding to her wishes not to be kept alive artificially. He has consistently been upheld in court and is now challenging the new law that allowed the governor to order the feeding tube reinserted.

Terri Schiavo's parents say she could be rehabilitated with therapy and want her kept alive and in their care.

Atomica
12-21-2003, 03:17 PM
I am sick and tired of this attitude that the fringe-minority left have taken toward their proposed killing of Terri Schindler Schiavo. It sickens me that her abusive husband Michael Schiavo has been allowed to get away with his lying liberal say-so for all this time after he caused the injuries that put her in her persistent vegetative state.
Terri can clearly respond to her mother, she has clearly been classified as a candidate for modest rehabilitation, so for heaven's sake, LET HER LIVE.
If the left wants to pull the plug on Terri Schindler-Schiavo, then let's pull the plug on Christopher Reeve!
Incidentally, this hateful attitude toward her is exactly the same sort of thing Adolf Hitler and his Nazi doctors pushed. Read "The Nazi Doctors" by Robert Jay Lifton and you will understand.

Strel
12-22-2003, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Atomica
I am sick and tired of this attitude that the fringe-minority left have taken toward their proposed killing of Terri Schindler Schiavo.

Latest polls show that the "fringe minority" left is actually a majority of people from all ends of the political spectrum in Florida that support the husband's decisions.


It sickens me that her abusive husband Michael Schiavo has been allowed to get away with his lying liberal say-so for all this time after he caused the injuries that put her in her persistent vegetative state.

Prove it.:rolleyes:

Terri can clearly respond to her mother, she has clearly been classified as a candidate for modest rehabilitation, so for heaven's sake, LET HER LIVE.

According to some very heavily edited and misleading video clips, from the media firm of Randall Terry & Co....I have seen people in this sort of state. She has no idea and no control over what she is doing at all. She is not conscious in any sense. Don't let the spastic movements and apparent facial expressions fool you. This is of course all beside the point that a team of neurologists have all agreed she has no chance of recovery and that those parts of her brain that are "Terri" are dead and not coming back. I think a lot of people like to ignore medical facts if it is politically expedient for them.

If the left wants to pull the plug on Terri Schindler-Schiavo, then let's pull the plug on Christopher Reeve!"

Now this is just dumb. I shouldn't think I would even have to point out why this is a patently ridiculous statement. And why do you think it's the "left" per se and alone that is arguing for death with some dignity?

Incidentally, this hateful attitude toward her is exactly the same sort of thing Adolf Hitler and his Nazi doctors pushed. Read "The Nazi Doctors" by Robert Jay Lifton and you will understand.

Huh? Hateful? You think the people that would like to see her and her husband cease their suffering are hateful? From what I see in your words, I think the hate is coming from the other side...
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DRMIZER
12-22-2003, 09:58 AM
Strelnikov,
You're right on. Medical evidence has proven beyond doubt that keeping her alive is self-serving of the parents. At this point, I don't believe it has anything to do with left or right, right or wrong. It's just the appropriate action to take. . . . .medically and morally.

Strel
12-22-2003, 11:41 AM
Frankly I think it is always going to be a thorny legal and ethical issue...in her individual case, I think it best to pull the plug. In other cases...who knows. Thus the importance of having things arranged in advance.

What really irks me is how Randall Terry and his little screeching crowd of followers is taking advantage of the parents, who up to the recent business didn't take nearly as much interest in the situation. Worse, we have Jeb Bush introducing unconstitutional law over this too - overturning a court decisions with legislation. Bad move, bad precedent, bad practice...