OUR BIZARRO WORLD

[DRMIZER]

Either Rush Limbaugh's housekeeper has been doping my morning coffee, or we are living in Bizarro World. If you don't recall the old DC comics, Bizarro World was created accidentally by the mad scientist Lex Luthor in a futile quest to clone Superman for evil purposes. Bizarro Superman turned out to have most of the Man of Steel's powers, but none of his intelligence.

So has Lex Luthor cloned the GOP? The State Department's battling the Pentagon over Iraq, the CIA's at war with the White House over who leaked a covert operative's identity, Rush Limbaugh's a junkie, a steroid-enhanced masher's governor of California, a three-star general's making speeches claiming that God appointed George W. Bush to fight a Holy War against Satan's Islamic allies, and what's the big problem worrying conservative pundits?

But let's forget the serious stuff and have some fun with sex, drugs, and Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, shall we?

Spare me the crocodile tears about poor Rush Limbaugh, OK? Here's a guy who's become a multi-millionaire celebrity by masquerading as Mr. Personal Responsibility and mocking the weaknesses of others. No sooner had Limbaugh been forced to admit he was addicted to prescription pain-killers--Schedule II narcotics, incidentally, like heroin and cocaine--than his own words got thrown in his face.

The answer to harsh prison terms given African-Americans, Limbaugh argued, wasn't mercy. "Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff," he said. "The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."

Discussing an NBA player's drug problems on TV, Limbaugh once said that experts be damned, "I don't buy into the disease part of drug abuse. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice."

No sooner did Rush get caught in a Federal drug probe, however, than he lapsed into therapy-speak. Suddenly drug addiction wasn't a crime, but a medical problem. Just as compulsive gambling mutated from a moral to a psychological problem after "Book of Virtues" author Bill Bennett needed to have his fingers surgically removed from a slot machine lever. "Defining deviancy down," Republicans used to call it.

To me, the last word on Limbaugh was pronounced by Joe Seehausen, executive director of the Libertarian Party. "America's drug warriors are shameless hypocrites who believe in one standard of justice for ordinary Americans and another for themselves, their families and their political allies."

Regarding Gov.-elect Schwarzenegger, it was funny watching Bizzaro World pundits who'd waxed apoplectic over Bill Clinton's idiotic dalliance with Monica Lewinsky suddenly unable to distinguish between consensual and forced sex. Conservative Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Chapman, however, nailed them:

At best, the evidence indicates that Schwarzenegger has a habit of sexual battery....When Clinton submitted to oral sex with Monica Lewinsky, conservatives thought it was morally repugnant. They also thought it disqualified him from remaining in office...Yet they're happy to have as governor of California someone who, by his own admission, has forced himself on unwilling women. Their new darling is a more aggressive sexual predator than the president they tried to remove from office. Morality? Law? They'll leave it to liberals to fret about such irrelevancies. But if the charges persist and multiply, I predict conservatives will find a way to address Arnold's behavior: They'll blame it on Clinton."

Then there's Gen. Boykin, the new deputy undersecretary of Defense for intelligence. In church speeches, Boykin has shown photos he says depict "demonic presences" over Muslim cities. An adept of the "my-God-is-red-hot, your-god-ain't- diddley-squat" school of fundamentalist theology, he boasted of telling a defeated opponent who'd invoked Allah that "my God was a real God and his was an idol." But now he says he didn't mean it. In Bush Bizarro World, that's good enough.

Excerpts By Gene Lyons

[steve_in_mich]

Is this the new post you were referring to that is supposed to show me how Rush is hateful?

When did Bill Bennett call compulsive gambling a moral or psychological problem? Do you know for a fact that Bennett was a compulsive gambler?

You're making stuff up.

The only way that one can label Rush a hypocrite is if he comes out and makes excuses for his behavior. Thus far he has not done this.

If he committed a crime he should be punished.

With that said, I hope you have the sense to make the distinction between abuse of prescription drugs and illegal drugs.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by steve_in_mich
The only way that one can label Rush a hypocrite is if he comes out and makes excuses for his behavior. Thus far he has not done this.

If he committed a crime he should be punished.

With that said, I hope you have the sense to make the distinction between abuse of prescription drugs and illegal drugs.

:o I make it a habit not to respond to "dittoheads" but this is my last exception, just for you.

Trust me, I know as a professional what drug addition is and is about. Illegal is illegal. Most street junkies begin with scripts. If you don't get a prescription through a physician, it is illegal. Perhaps you need to make the distinction.

Now, you asked me about Rush's statements of being absurd and mean-spirited. Well, just for you. And there are tons and tons available.

"Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, a worthless shred of human debris." Rush Limbaugh the very day the lead singer of Nirvana committed suicide due to a drug addiction.

“Why should blacks be heard? They’re 12% of the population. Who the hell cares.” Rush Limbaugh on Negroes.

“Have you ever noticed that all newspaper composite drawings of wanted criminals look like Jesse Jackson?” Rush Limbaugh on Negroes.

"They vote with their vaginas!" Rush Limbaugh on women

“Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along.” Rush Limbaugh forgetting that before feminism, women were not only denied the vote but considered property.

“It’s not my fault! I was telling an innocent story about a White House dog, when an unnamed staffer put Chelsea’s picture on the screen against my will!”

This was a big lie by a big liar Rush Limbaugh - hint1 - There was no dog in the White House at that time -
hint2 -After the unattractive shot of 13 old Chelsea with a big mouth full of braces hit the screen, Rush and his tv audience laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed... Snotsnorting laughter.

Well, defend him if you wish. :D It's a free country.

Chiao!

[steve_in_mich]

Grow up a bit will you - not eveyone who disagrees with you is a dittohead.

It's unfortunate that you don't have the sense to make a distinction between legal and illegal drugs.

Another nice try - previously you did not state that he was absurd or mean-spirited. This is your quote:

"This man provokes hatred! He's a "Radio Talk Show Host". That's all he is! A radio talk show host spewing hatred. . ."

[DRMIZER]

The last time. . . . . . . .what do you call these quotes?

"Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, a worthless shred of human debris." Rush Limbaugh the very day the lead singer of Nirvana committed suicide due to a drug addiction.

“Why should blacks be heard? They’re 12% of the population. Who the hell cares.” Rush Limbaugh on Negroes.

“Have you ever noticed that all newspaper composite drawings of wanted criminals look like Jesse Jackson?” Rush Limbaugh on Negroes.

"They vote with their vaginas!" Rush Limbaugh on women

“Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along.” Rush Limbaugh forgetting that before feminism, women were not only denied the vote but considered property.

“It’s not my fault! I was telling an innocent story about a White House dog, when an unnamed staffer put Chelsea’s picture on the screen against my will!”

This was a big lie by a big liar Rush Limbaugh - hint1 - There was no dog in the White House at that time -
hint2 -After the unattractive shot of 13 old Chelsea with a big mouth full of braces hit the screen, Rush and his tv audience laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed... Snotsnorting laughter.

[steve_in_mich]

I believe that you've proved my point - folks like you have decided to change the definition of hate to mean anything that you don't agree with or you find offensive. Being offensive and being hateful are completely different.

I'm not here to defend everything Rush ever said I just get tired of hearing everything labeled as hateful. It's happening all over, primarily by liberals who can't debate issues. It seems to have taken over in a broader context for 'racist' since they can't apply that label to every situation.

[up2date]

Taken from the rules page:1) Treat each other with respect. We realize the very nature of this forum virtually ensures there will be intense discussions with tempers rising on all sides of any debate. We mustn't let that degrade into abusive attacks against one another. The definitions of "respect" and "abusive" are left solely to the discretion of moderators.Originally posted by steve_in_mich
I believe that you've proved my point - folks like you have decided to change the definition of hate to mean anything that you don't agree with or you find offensive. Being offensive and being hateful are completely different.

I'm not here to defend everything Rush ever said I just get tired of hearing everything labeled as hateful. It's happening all over, primarily by liberals who can't debate issues. It seems to have taken over in a broader context for 'racist' since they can't apply that label to every situation. You make a good point about the difference between offensive and hateful. My one concern is that racist is a personal word and it's difficult to tell an individual who's hurt by a comment that they shouldn't be because the speaker was offensive and not racist. Still, I agree many don't like Rush and are happy to have ammo to use against him.

Btw, I just want to point out that it is not only "liberals" who have trouble debating issues. Happens on both extremes.

[steve_in_mich]

up2date:

You might want to read my posts a bit more carefully - I didn't suggest that liberals were the only one's who have trouble debating issues, but that it is primarily liberals who can't debate issues who are throwing the hate word around.

I don't find it difficult at all to make the distinction between offensive and racist. There are way too many people who truly do not understand the definition of racism.

Unfortunately there are a whole lot of people who have been told that if anyone is offended that we must consider that person's feelings and correct our speech/behavior. Sorry, but I'm not buying into that load of crap. People need to become a bit more thick-skinned and stop feeling offended by anything that they don't agree with.

What was the point of quoting the rules page?

[up2date]

Originally posted by steve_in_mich
I don't find it difficult at all to make the distinction between offensive and racist. There are way too many people who truly do not understand the definition of racism.

Unfortunately there are a whole lot of people who have been told that if anyone is offended that we must consider that person's feelings and correct our speech/behavior. Sorry, but I'm not buying into that load of crap. People need to become a bit more thick-skinned and stop feeling offended by anything that they don't agree with. You feel this way, and that's great for you. It's a very strong and healthy attitude. I am not suggesting we need be 100% politically correct in what we say. But we do need to at some point consider the effects of our words and actions. As I said, racism can be a personal word, and not everyone will share your definition.

I will shortly answer you last question.

[DRMIZER]

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Moderator

Looks like you got your hands full.

[steve_in_mich]

But that's the problem - we've allowed people to come up with their own definitions of hate, racism, etc.

I'm not suggesting that people say whatever they want, but that the consideration should be this - would a rational person be offended by this rather than would ANYONE be offended by this.

[NetxMan]

DRMIZER
Political Junkie

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Yes our hands are full.



:lol::argue::lol:

[up2date]

Originally posted by steve_in_mich
But that's the problem - we've allowed people to come up with their own definitions of hate, racism, etc.

I'm not suggesting that people say whatever they want, but that the consideration should be this - would a rational person be offended by this rather than would ANYONE be offended by this. I agree completely -- but then the challenge comes in defining "rational" and "offended." That's easier said than done.

[The Man]

steve_in_mich

I have been looking over the board today and notice your many responses and replies to all kinds of other member's threads. However, I don't see where you are really contributing any information. It appears so far that you have an argument with and almost personally attack persons you don't agree with. It might be more beneficial to all if you could share some of your insights with us rather than just commenting on others. Otherwise it only looks as though you are posting to agitate other members.

[steve_in_mich]

Hmmm, do you understand the purpose of forums like this?

I generally don't bother posting replies like "I agree" or "right on", when I agree with people; it's somewhat pointless to post if you don't have anything new to say.

Are you sure that you've actually read my posts; I've offered my opinion on many subjects as opposed to just replying that I disagree with someone.

I suggest you do a bit more homework before posting something like this again.

[shikaki]

I understand the purposes of forums like this. I like to read thought provoking subject matter that actually contains substance. Opinions are good, but nothing hits home better than substance. For some of us, depending on where we live, this may be one of the few forms of intellectual stimulation. The trick is not to make it apparent.

[The Man]

Originally posted by steve_in_mich
Hmmm, do you understand the purpose of forums like this?

I generally don't bother posting replies like "I agree" or "right on", when I agree with people; it's somewhat pointless to post if you don't have anything new to say.

Are you sure that you've actually read my posts; I've offered my opinion on many subjects as opposed to just replying that I disagree with someone.

I suggest you do a bit more homework before posting something like this again.

See you did it again; writing down to another member. This must be your style. Maybe other members love it, some ignore it and so shall I.

[up2date]

We can debate the purpose of a forum like this in another thread, perhaps in the Announcements, Feedback & Suggestions forum. But it shouldn't overshadow or takeover an existing thread.

[bmovies]

Originally posted by DRMIZER
:o “It’s not my fault! I was telling an innocent story about a White House dog, when an unnamed staffer put Chelsea’s picture on the screen against my will!”

This was a big lie by a big liar Rush Limbaugh - hint1 - There was no dog in the White House at that time -
hint2 -After the unattractive shot of 13 old Chelsea with a big mouth full of braces hit the screen, Rush and his tv audience laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed... Snotsnorting laughter.

Well, defend him if you wish. :D It's a free country.

Chiao!


Hint 3: Rush was NOT telling a story about a white house dog. He was doing a segment about In/Out lists that were coming out by the dozens in magazines and newspaper columns.
Hint 4: There WAS a dog in the White House at the time, known as Millie.
Hint 5: The laughter came from the shot showing the dog, not Chelsea. Rush was appropriately mortified.
hint 6: Rush apologized prfusely
Hint 7: Whether or not it was done on purpose by the behind the scenes tech guy, it was clear that Rush wasnt expecting it.
Hint 8: A transcript of the true events:

Copyright 1992 Multimedia Entertainment, Inc.
RUSH LIMBAUGH
SHOW: RUSH LIMBAUGH (9:00 PM ET)
November 6, 1992, Friday 11:15 AM

<snip>
LIMBAUGH: Thank you. This show's era of dominant influence is just beginning. We are now the sole voice of sanity, the sole voice of reason. We are the sole voice of opposition on all television. This is the only place you can tune to to get the truth of the opposition of the one-party dictatorial government that now will soon run America. Oh, I mean, we are only beginning to enjoy dominance and prosperity. Most of these things on the in-out list are not even funny, but a couple of them--one of them in particular is.

David Hinckley of--of the New York Daily News wrote this, and what he has--he's got--it's very strange. He says, In: A cute kid in the White House. Out: Cute dog in the White House.' Could--could we see the cute kid? Let's take a look at--see who is the cute kid in the White House.

(A picture is shown of Millie the dog)

LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That's not the kid.

(Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton)

LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That's--that's the kid. We're trying to...

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by bmovies
Hint 3: Rush was NOT telling a story about a white house dog. He was doing a segment about In/Out lists that were coming out by the dozens in magazines and newspaper columns.
Hint 4: There WAS a dog in the White House at the time, known as Millie.
Hint 5: The laughter came from the shot showing the dog, not Chelsea. Rush was appropriately mortified.
hint 6: Rush apologized prfusely
Hint 7: Whether or not it was done on purpose by the behind the scenes tech guy, it was clear that Rush wasnt expecting it.
Hint 8: A transcript of the true events:

Copyright 1992 Multimedia Entertainment, Inc.
RUSH LIMBAUGH
SHOW: RUSH LIMBAUGH (9:00 PM ET)
November 6, 1992, Friday 11:15 AM

<snip>
LIMBAUGH: Thank you. This show's era of dominant influence is just beginning. We are now the sole voice of sanity, the sole voice of reason. We are the sole voice of opposition on all television. This is the only place you can tune to to get the truth of the opposition of the one-party dictatorial government that now will soon run America. Oh, I mean, we are only beginning to enjoy dominance and prosperity. Most of these things on the in-out list are not even funny, but a couple of them--one of them in particular is.

David Hinckley of--of the New York Daily News wrote this, and what he has--he's got--it's very strange. He says, In: A cute kid in the White House. Out: Cute dog in the White House.' Could--could we see the cute kid? Let's take a look at--see who is the cute kid in the White House.

(A picture is shown of Millie the dog)

LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That's not the kid.

(Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton)

LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That's--that's the kid. We're trying to...

Well, first of all, Limbaugh states that his show is the “voice of reason.” I would assume that drugs, to Rush, are a part of reason. Well, for some.

I have listened, woefully too much, to Limbaugh over the last 12 years. After all, you really couldn’t listen to talk radio without the DrugMeister at the helm.

The quotes I offered were directly from his lips. Even he can’t un-ring a bell, neither can his supporters. I understand the tenor of his comments. So does every listener he ever had. He meant it the way he said it. . . .in his mean-spirited, dastardly commentary to hit the Clintons again, again and again.

Now, if he didn’t mean it and apologized, why did he continue over the next 8 years to bash, bash, bash the Clintons? AND HE'S STILL DOING IT 3 YEARS AFTER THEY ARE GONE! He not only BASHES them politically, he bashes them personally, bashes Mrs. Clinton’s personal appearance, insinuated that the Clinton’s killed or had Vince Foster killed, and on and on and on. Face it. There is no defense for an ultra-right wing radio talk show host who has gone out of his way to destroy anyone and everyone who disagrees with him. He’s what I refer to as a scumbag!

[Missouri Mule]

"insinuated that the Clinton’s killed or had Vince Foster killed"

Really?

[JD3]

A lot of conspiracy folks love that one. Lack of evidence is no problem by the way.

[Captain America]

Lack of evidence is no problem by the way.

Obviously not. Not in todays political arena anyways.

[Missouri Mule]

Vince Foster was a victim of depression. He came to the WH and was overwhelmed by the politics. That security guy claimed that he and Hillary were an item but I've never bought into that idea myself. Hillary might have been an item with Rosie O'Donnel though.

[Captain America]

:D :D :D

Right on B-dog! You STILL got it!

[bmovies]

Originally posted by DRMIZER

Now, if he didn’t mean it and apologized, why did he continue over the next 8 years to bash, bash, bash the Clintons? AND HE'S STILL DOING IT 3 YEARS AFTER THEY ARE GONE!

Because his show is a topical show...the news of the day, so to speak. He cant run a political topical radio show without mentioning President Clinton, and now Senator Clinton. And the guy, even though now out of office, is still a public figure whose name gets into the press from time to time.



He not only BASHES them politically, he bashes them personally, bashes Mrs. Clinton’s personal appearance, insinuated that the Clinton’s killed or had Vince Foster killed, and on and on and on.


Another falsehood. He never insinuated that Clinton had Foster
killed. One day, years ago, Rush got a fax to his office suggesting such a thing, but he derided the fax as a hoax.


Face it. There is no defense for an ultra-right wing radio talk show host who has gone out of his way to destroy anyone and everyone who disagrees with him. He’s what I refer to as a scumbag!

There is one defense: His critics lie, or are misinformed about him. Basing their opinions of Limbaugh on these falsehoods. I too would refer to him as a scumbag, if your info was true.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by bmovies
Because his show is a topical show...the news of the day, so to speak. He cant run a political topical radio show without mentioning President Clinton, and now Senator Clinton. And the guy, even though now out of office, is still a public figure whose name gets into the press from time to time.




Another falsehood. He never insinuated that Clinton had Foster
killed. One day, years ago, Rush got a fax to his office suggesting such a thing, but he derided the fax as a hoax.



There is one defense: His critics lie, or are misinformed about him. Basing their opinions of Limbaugh on these falsehoods. I too would refer to him as a scumbag, if your info was true. [/B]


You know about that fax Rush allegedly received. . . .he most likely "pretended" a fax came in with that information on it so he could first say it and then deny its truth. If he believed it to be untrue, why would he mention it at all? Gee, maybe to destroy the Clintons? Rush Limbaugh would not deny anything negative about the Clintons....never. This was just another one of his distorted shots at crushing them. Taking that into consideration, he did insinuate they killed Foster through a hoax!

Another question. His critics number into the millions. Are all of us idiots to this lame brain? r-i-g-h-t! !:p

His show is topical alright. . . . How to further destroy the Clintons and have to demean everyone he doesn't agree with. Have you listened to this idiots show and make the arguments you made? That makes me believe there may be something wrong with your process thinking.

Well, let's go with the undeniable truth instead of "madeup" stories. All the times he was filling your "brain full of mush" what TO believe, he was higher than a kite on drugs! He is a dope addict. Like here is your brain. . . .here is your brain on RUSH! My hero. My deuchbag!

[Missouri Mule]

Taking Rush Limbaugh seriously is a sign of mental illness. He is an entertainer; like a Michael Moore or an Al Franken. He pushes the "hot" buttons of the liberals they go ballistic. This only provides further ammunition for his show. If you don't like him, ignore him.

Dale Earnhardt, the great Nascar driver was both loved and hated on the race track. He said that the only time he worried was when the fans didn't care one way or another. Having gone to the races myself I can confirm his analysis. The so-so drivers are politely cheered with an occasional boo. When the stars come out the fans erupt in earth shaking applause or boos.

Rush follows the same thing. His fans and his detractors keep it up and he laughs all the way to the bank.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Missouri Mule
Taking Rush Limbaugh seriously is a sign of mental illness. He is an entertainer; like a Michael Moore or an Al Franken. He pushes the "hot" buttons of the liberals they go ballistic. This only provides further ammunition for his show. If you don't like him, ignore him.

Dale Earnhardt, the great Nascar driver was both loved and hated on the race track. He said that the only time he worried was when the fans didn't care one way or another. Having gone to the races myself I can confirm his analysis. The so-so drivers are politely cheered with an occasional boo. When the stars come out the fans erupt in earth shaking applause or boos.

Rush follows the same thing. His fans and his detractors keep it up and he laughs all the way to the bank.

God forbid I would take this dope addict's message seriously. However, I see by this and other boards that he is GOD in the political sense. And you're right. Anyone who takes him seriously has a problem up stairs.

I disagree with your analysis. Liberals are not permitted to get through the screeners on his show. He won't go out in public on appearances, he refuses to be interviewed. He simply sits at home and drops pills. A scumbag! I don't think he affects liberals, he affects people who do take his show seriously who affect liberals!

Johnny Cash had a similar saying. "I don't care what they're saying, good or bad, as long as they're saying it."

[Missouri Mule]

"Liberals are not permitted to get through the screeners on his show."

Really? You must be listening to a different Rush Limbaugh then. The Rush Limbaugh I have listened to has often stated that his policy is to put them to the front (so he can argue with them.) I have heard many liberals go head to head with him. So I wonder if you are as knowledgeable about him as you claim.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Missouri Mule
"Liberals are not permitted to get through the screeners on his show."

Really? You must be listening to a different Rush Limbaugh then. The Rush Limbaugh I have listened to has often stated that his policy is to put them to the front (so he can argue with them.) I have heard many liberals go head to head with him. So I wonder if you are as knowledgeable about him as you claim.

Open call Fridays? Oh yea, right! After the screener has determined that they are going to discuss a "softball subject" and eventually come around to his way of thinking. Staged calls? Did I say that? Palease.

And what was that you were saying about justifying the fax, accidentally released as a hoax? Oh, that's right, you skipped over that.

You still haven't said anything about the bottom line. . . .that is he is a DRUG ADDICT with a radio show who has been affecting the political thinking of dittoheads in this country. A drug addict sir. . . . .people we put behind bars because they break the laws because they arenot competent to be in society.

Does his breaking the law and making great pronouncements about his superiority, sleeping at the Whitehouse in the bed of Lincoln while out of his mind on drugs affect your thinking about this god of a man (Talent on loan from)? Guess not! Limbaugh got it right when he says he's influencing skulls full of mush!

Yes, this is a BIZARRO WORLD. :sleep:

[Missouri Mule]

I think I may have heard you on his show. Would I be wrong?

[Missouri Mule]

DRMIZER: The answer to your question is that Rush Limbaugh should be treated the same way as anyone else, under the law.

I think you misunderstand me. I am a moderate conservative but I seldom spend much time listening to Rush or any of the other radio opinion programs unless there isn't anything else worth listening to. It doesn't do me any good to listen to someone who is even more right-wing than I am. What good does that do me? If I want to know what the opposing political camp is going to do I need to listen to them. Frankly, I happen to think that several of the Democratic candidates are pretty good. I liked Gephardt on Matthews the other day. I think he would be a decent enough president although his ties to unions are a little stronger than I prefer. I liked Edwards a whole lot. I have always liked Lieberman. I think Kerry would be fine. Dean's OK, I guess but he suffers from "Mouth in Foot" disease. Clark is a stalking horse for Hillary Clinton and his boomlet is about to end.

I was never a big, big fan of Bush. I have ordered Gore's book and read part of it "The Earth in the Balance" and what concerned me was that he is so wordy and wrapped up in minutia. I did support John McCain in the last election and contributed a small sum to his campaign.

Getting back to Rush, since you believe so strongly that he ought to have the book thrown at him and should be modeling an orange jump suit, why don't you try again and call in on Friday and tell him this. Let me know and I'll be sure to tune in.

[Captain America]

Rush loved to overshout and cut-off liberals on his show. He could not go toe to toe with the smart ones without screaming. Frickin' idiot. Now ALL the righties do that it seems. See what he started?:banghead:

[Simon666]

I think DRMIZER hit the nail on the head.

[Missouri Mule]

DRMIZER: Did you ever get on his program?

[DRMIZER]

Nope

[Missouri Mule]

You'd make a good guest. You are tenacious.

[DRMIZER]

Well, manybe when he sobers up!

[Missouri Mule]

I'll be listening for you.

[bmovies]

"You know about that fax Rush allegedly received. . . .he most likely "pretended" a fax came in with that information on it so he could first say it and then deny its truth. "

"Most likely"? You're going to have to do better than that. The fax existed. He wasnt the only one in the media to get that fax.

"If he believed it to be untrue, why would he mention it at all? Gee, maybe to destroy the Clintons?"

God, your twisted reasoning. Oh yeah. That makes sense. If one believes negative info to be untrue, then one should be quiet about it. Do not speak the truth.

True, he wanted to destroy the clinton;s but he knew he didnt need phony info to do it with.

Why do you predicate your beliefs on leading questions?

"Rush Limbaugh would not deny anything negative about the Clintons....never."

"This was just another one of his distorted shots at crushing them. Taking that into consideration, he did insinuate they killed Foster through a hoax!"

Nonsense. His exact words: "I'll give you ten to one that this fax is a hoax!"

"His show is topical alright. . . . How to further destroy the Clintons and have to demean everyone he doesn't agree with."

By rightfully exposing some phony info, thats how he destroys them? And you call my thinking process into question.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by bmovies
"You know about that fax Rush allegedly received. . . .he most likely "pretended" a fax came in with that information on it so he could first say it and then deny its truth. "

"Most likely"? You're going to have to do better than that. The fax existed. He wasnt the only one in the media to get that fax.

THEN WHERE DID IT COME FROM? WHO DISTRIBUTED THE FAX? IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A RIGHT-WING PERSON COULD IT?

"If he believed it to be untrue, why would he mention it at all? Gee, maybe to destroy the Clintons?"

God, your twisted reasoning. Oh yeah. That makes sense. If one believes negative info to be untrue, then one should be quiet about it. Do not speak the truth.
THEN WHY DO YOU THINK HE PUT IT ON THE AIR? WHAT PURPOSE DID IT SERVE. PLEASE, USE UN-TWISTED REASONING. :D

True, he wanted to destroy the clinton;s but he knew he didnt need phony info to do it with.
WELL THEN, GIVE US ALL YOUR STORY ON THE TRUTH OF THE CLINTONS THAT WOULD "DESTROY" THEM. PLEASE, SHARE.

Why do you predicate your beliefs on leading questions?
WHAT THA HELL IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN?

"Rush Limbaugh would not deny anything negative about the Clintons....never."

"This was just another one of his distorted shots at crushing them. Taking that into consideration, he did insinuate they killed Foster through a hoax!"

Nonsense. His exact words: "I'll give you ten to one that this fax is a hoax!"
OF COURSE. THEN IF HE REALLY BELIEVED IT TO BE A HOAX, 10 TO 1, WHY DID HE MENTION IT?

"His show is topical alright. . . . How to further destroy the Clintons and have to demean everyone he doesn't agree with."

By rightfully exposing some phony info, thats how he destroys them?
GEE, THAT'S BEEN HIS SHOW FOR MORE THAN 12 YEARS. AND AT LEAST HALF OF THAT TIME HE HAS BEEN HIGH ON "NON-PRESCRIBED PAIN KILLERS." YA GOTTA BELIEVE A MAN LIKE THAT! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: And you call my thinking process into question.

[Paladin]

I listen to Rush as often as i can, and that's often. I've listened to him for at least 14 years, and from 3 differeent homes in 3 different states.

In one state the nearest station that carried Rush was 160 miles away and only one radio in the house would pick him up, so i planned my days to be there.

I agree with Rush on many many things -- not all. i don't agree with ANYONE about everything.

But Rush was hypocritical about this, and so is every other supporter of his who thinks Rush should be treated differently from the way they advocate other drug users should be treated.

In essence the point is this.
The Drug War has been a Collassal Failure --- A Bigger Failure than the War on Poverty, by a long way {way more people dead for example}.

Legalize it.
Tax it.
Let the cops chase the robbers.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Paladin
I listen to Rush as often as i can, and that's often. I've listened to him for at least 14 years, and from 3 differeent homes in 3 different states.
I'm sorry you've had this experience. May I get you a dilaudid, a percocet, a percodan?

Listening to him that long, you gotta be loaded. No wonder you want to legalize drugs. ;) (It's a joke, don't get crazy)