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Boldnold
12-29-2004, 02:17 PM
What's going on? A big, big earthquake followed by a series of big tital waves killing maybe 100,000 people or more in Indonesia. Are we seeing a prelude of things to come? Maybe God or someone is trying to tell us something. We're beginning to see a bunch of big earthquakes happening now. Maybe there's nothing to it. O.K., there's nothing to it, but who knows for sure. If we start to see more of the same around the rest of the world in the near future with the same or similiar results, then watch out! Grab your bible, drop to your knees and start praying. Could be some dark days ahead!

Boldnold :)

Churlant
12-29-2004, 02:36 PM
What's going on? A big, big earthquake followed by a series of big tital waves killing maybe 100,000 people or more in Indonesia. Are we seeing a prelude of things to come? Maybe God or someone is trying to tell us something. We're beginning to see a bunch of big earthquakes happening now. Maybe there's nothing to it. O.K., there's nothing to it, but who knows for sure. If we start to see more of the same around the rest of the world in the near future with the same or similiar results, then watch out! Grab your bible, drop to your knees and start praying. Could be some dark days ahead!

Boldnold :)

Plate Techtonics:

The Earth's crust actually "floats" on a molten center. Different portions (called "plates") move in separate directions as they float along, and the points at which they jam together are called "fault lines". These can be gigantic, and many pass directly under big cities (like Los Angeles). When two of these plates move past, or smash against, each other earthquakes will happen.

Plate techtonics are responsible for mountains, as two plates push against each other and one is forced above the other. It takes millions of years... a fault in california, for instance, is moving Los Angeles and San Francisco about 2 inches closer to each other every year :)

Now the tsunami is directly related to the earthquakes... I'm a bit fuzzier on those, but there's plenty of info around lately.

-JC

Redratio1
12-29-2004, 02:40 PM
Naaa...disaster is just part of living on this planet. Nothing new except the numbers of people on the planet, and the coverage these disasters have worldwide.

Myglarn
12-29-2004, 02:50 PM
Oh i suppose this was unavoidable. If you feel the need i think this will quell your thirst for a while: http://www.ldolphin.org/quakes2.html

Churlant
12-29-2004, 02:53 PM
Let us not forget about yet another sign of the End Times - a cashless society. Debit Cards anyone? :cool:

-JC

Redratio1
12-29-2004, 02:53 PM
AAAAAAAaaaaaa!!!! Its the rapture!

Churlant
12-29-2004, 03:02 PM
AAAAAAAaaaaaa!!!! Its the rapture!

This is no laughing matter... keep in mind it's been just shy of 2,626,565 minutes since the rapture was scheduled to take place... better late than never, so get crackin with that penance or you'll be left behind.

-JC

Redratio1
12-29-2004, 03:11 PM
Can you imagine if there was a real world wide natural disaster? It would be real religious freak out session that would make Y2K look like a pizza party.

Myglarn
12-29-2004, 03:12 PM
I didn't know there was a fixed date for the rapture Churlant?

Churlant
12-29-2004, 03:16 PM
I didn't know there was a fixed date for the rapture Churlant?

Well depending on who you asked at the time, it was supposed to be 12 midnight, Jan 1 2000... then it became 12 midnight Jan 1, 2001, since the new Millenium technically didn't start until THAT time... for my reference, I go by the 2000 date since it seems to have been the more widely accepted point at which the rapture was meant to occur.

Of course, believers claim "you cannot know the time or place" and blah blah... but the truth is a good deal of the nuts were disappointed on Jan 2 to still be around. If you happen to ask any of them, they'll probably tell you they expect the rapture in their lifetimes... and they'll still claim as much in another 200 yrs I'm sure.

-JC

mataj
12-29-2004, 04:05 PM
After the last noticeable quake around here Jehova's witnesses carried rubber boats on the hills, in expectation of the flood. Guess they could just sit in the boats in the valley, and let them float, but they obviously wanted to enjoy the show from the good vantage point.

Redratio1
12-29-2004, 04:06 PM
They didn't think God would save them? Darn they have little faith!

Boldnold
12-29-2004, 05:57 PM
It's interesting to note that this big indonesian earthquake & disasterous tital waves came on Christmas day. Good timing for the Lord if he wanted to make a point. To those who believe, it's a point well taken!

boldnold

Churlant
12-29-2004, 06:07 PM
It's interesting to note that this big indonesian earthquake & disasterous tital waves came on Christmas day. Good timing for the Lord if he wanted to make a point. To those who believe, it's a point well taken!

boldnold


"Here's the deaths of a hundred thousand innocent people! Happy Birthday Son!"

-God

:rolleyes:

-JC

AgentM
12-29-2004, 06:10 PM
After the last noticeable quake around here Jehova's witnesses carried rubber boats on the hills, in expectation of the flood. Guess they could just sit in the boats in the valley, and let them float, but they obviously wanted to enjoy the show from the good vantage point.

LOL. I used to have a friend who was a JW. They are one of the more, shall we say, devout denominations. It's funny to hear all these super religious people freak out every time the calendar changes or a natural disaster happens.

Boldnold
12-29-2004, 06:20 PM
If we have a few more 'Big' ones like the one we just had, then all bets are off!

Boldnold

Churlant
12-29-2004, 06:28 PM
If we have a few more 'Big' ones like the one we just had, then all bets are off!

Boldnold

:sigh:

Do you know what it means when you hit '00' three times in a row while playing on the roulette wheel?

-JC

Boldnold
12-29-2004, 06:37 PM
We'll depends on your point of view. If you had nothing but 6, 7 & 8's for a long time and then you start getting a few 9's, then it looks like the roulette wheel needs to be checked or the person(s) throwing them.

Boldnold

Churlant
12-29-2004, 06:44 PM
We'll depends on your point of view. If you had nothing but 6, 7 & 8's for a long time and then you start getting a few 9's, then it looks like the roulette wheel needs to be checked or the person(s) throwing them.

Boldnold

Can you explain to me how this belief system works? If a few earthquakes happen in quick succession, it's a sign from God. If NO earthquakes were to occur for 50 years, it would STILL be a sign from God. If you get ONE, then nothing for 5 years, it's ALSO a sign from God. If the quake comes on Christmas, it's a sign from God. If it comes on July 2, it's a sign from God.

Basically, anything you decide has supernatural importance is a Sign because you need it to be so. No amount of explanation or science or statistics or averages is going to change your mind.

In fact, believe it or not, I am a Sign from God. Be humbled by my glory...

-JC

Redratio1
12-29-2004, 06:44 PM
A few 9's? The last 9 I think was like in the 1960s.

Myglarn
12-30-2004, 03:48 AM
Really Reddie? I would consider that pretty close..

Redratio1
12-30-2004, 03:51 AM
Ok then when was the last 9 before the 1960s?

Boldnold
12-30-2004, 08:00 AM
It's my impression that there were only a couple of 9's this century, the last one being this past week (9.0) in Indonesia and the previous (9.2) in 1964 in Alaska. However, I believe the frequency of 8's have increased, especially over the last 40 years, which makes for a very active century for big earthquakes. I guess now we can expect a few more big ones sometime in the near future. Where? Your guess is as good as mine. How about Iraq for starters. In terms of God having an influence over the frequency of large earth quakes? I guess we'll all find out someday, especially when the sound of rushing Tsunamis or ground uplifting and spliting apart begins to sound like trumpets.

Boldnold

mataj
12-30-2004, 08:18 AM
Rapture index is up 2 points this month. Oh dear, oh dear... :rolleyes: :p :lol:
http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html

Boldnold
12-30-2004, 05:42 PM
Obviously for those who believe in the Rapture will need to heed the latest round of current big earthquake activity that is happening around the world. It's becoming more & more apparent that there is a definet increase of big earth quakes over the past 40 years. It's likely the 'Big' earth quake activity will increase over the next few years and probably indicate something is 'Going On' and maybe, just maybe (know one knows for sure) it could indicate the beginning of some bad times ahead. But one thing is for sure, it would be in everyone's best interest (for those who believe) to check out 'Revelations' in the bible one more time just to be safe!

Boldnold

Redratio1
12-30-2004, 05:52 PM
Obviously for those who believe in the Rapture will need to heed the latest round of current big earthquake activity that is happening around the world. It's becoming more & more apparent that there is a definet increase of big earth quakes over the past 40 years.

What data are you basing this conclusion on?

temp1
12-30-2004, 05:58 PM
I'm glad I moved away from the New Madrid fault line, wait a sec... oh crap Yellowstone is just north of me now.

Myglarn
12-30-2004, 06:05 PM
What data are you basing this conclusion on?
Actually there is a steady increase in earthquakes. And i have even begun taking notice how often there is small notices of earthquakes in the newspaper, i feel it is unusal, or i didn't see them before.

http://www.detailshere.com/earthquakeactivity.htm

Now i'm not implying it has anything to do with what Boldnold is suggesting, but it could mean we are entering a period in which the earth becomes more geological active. I belive it has happen before?

Redratio1
12-30-2004, 06:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes

Here is a list of major earthquakes since such things have been recorded, or interpreted by geological activity. Keep in mind real records were only started 200 years ago, and detection capabilities have been improving vastly since.

With that said, it looks like there is no increase in large scale quakes of the last few years relative to any other time period.

Boldnold
12-30-2004, 06:34 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes

Here is a list of major earthquakes since such things have been recorded, or interpreted by geological activity. Keep in mind real records were only started 200 years ago, and detection capabilities have been improving vastly since.

With that said, it looks like there is no increase in large scale quakes of the last few years relative to any other time period.

I don't believe you are convincing enough to say that there hasn't been 'no increase' in big earth quakes relative to any other time period. The fact is there have been 'Two' big major earthquakes of mag. '9.0' or greater in the past 40 years. I would say the past 40 years is a rather recent time period wouldn't you? It all really comes down to what earth quake activity graph you are using as your reference and what is their source. You should research other earthquake activity sources. U.S. Geological Society is a good one to start with. Keep trying! The bottom line is, there will be more big earth quakes to come. How big? When & where? Your guess is a good as mine. The past 40 years of big earth quake activity is a good indicator of that. Also, don't discount the supervolcanos. Yellowstone has a lot of earth quake activity increasing under it all the time. That is going a bad day for everyone when it decides to blow again!

Boldnold

temp1
12-30-2004, 06:41 PM
Don't most things happen in cycles, including volcanoes and earthquakes? Any geologists here that can confirm or deny this thought?

Myglarn
12-30-2004, 06:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes

Here is a list of major earthquakes since such things have been recorded, or interpreted by geological activity. Keep in mind real records were only started 200 years ago, and detection capabilities have been improving vastly since.

With that said, it looks like there is no increase in large scale quakes of the last few years relative to any other time period.
That might be it. But surely there must be times of high geological activites and low periods in earths past?

Boldnold
12-30-2004, 06:50 PM
Well to have to big earth quakes of 9.0 or greater in a span of 40 years??? I don't believe the earthquake records have indicated that type of big earth quake activity over the past two hundred years. The fact is, we have had a lot of 8's over the past 40 years years leading up to the big '9'. Best prediction is; Expect more of the same in the future.

boldnold

Redratio1
12-30-2004, 06:51 PM
Well thats why I said it "looks like". The problem is that our ability to measure and detect earthquakes have been increasing over the last 200 year by leaps and bounds, so there would naturally be more measured earthquakes closer to the present. Prior to around 200 years records of major earthquakes are pretty sparse and ill measured.

Besides, even if there were 4 9.0 earthquakes in a 50 year period, in terms of geological time periods it is meaningless. You would need to have data for hundreds or thousands or years to know whether or not there is an increasing frequency of major earthquakes. Of course that would be moot if you believe the world was created ~6000 years ago, like many fundamentalists believe.

Redratio1
12-30-2004, 06:53 PM
That might be it. But surely there must be times of high geological activites and low periods in earths past?

Quite possibly. Early Earth is known to have been much more geologically active than it is now.

Churlant
12-30-2004, 06:57 PM
Well to have to big earth quakes of 9.0 or greater in a span of 40 years??? I don't believe the earthquake records have indicated that type of big earth quake activity over the past two hundred years. The fact is, we have had a lot of 8's over the past 40 years years leading up to the big '9'. Best prediction is; Expect more of the same in the future.

boldnold

I can absolutely guarantee we will have more earthquakes in the future - large ones. I can also guarantee the sun will shine upon our planet for at least another couple billion years... neither one of these incidents indicates supernatural origin.

-JC

Redratio1
12-30-2004, 07:01 PM
I think the Sun is supposed to go Red giant in a few million years though.

Myglarn
12-30-2004, 07:06 PM
Now what makes you think that? No superstition give me the scientific facts for your beliefs! *demands* *eyeing badly*

Churlant
12-30-2004, 07:07 PM
I think the Sun is supposed to go Red giant in a few million years though.

Actually it doesn't hit that stage until the helium is mostly burned through... which'll still take around 4 billion years. Until then you can keep the 1.32^201 SPF Sunscreen at home... I think..

-JC

Post Script: Myglarn: I asked God, and he told me so. That's all the proof I need!

temp1
12-30-2004, 07:10 PM
We will need more sunscreen shortly for the transition period as the magnetic poles flip flop.

Redratio1
12-30-2004, 07:12 PM
Actually it doesn't hit that stage until the helium is mostly burned through... which'll still take around 4 billion years. Until then you can keep the 1.32^201 SPF Sunscreen at home... I think..

-JC


I'll take your word for that timeline, though I believe it doesn't require complete exaustion of He, only a fraction depletion is need for transformation to Red giant as there are multiple reactions that go on simultaniously.

Damn I forgot my astronomy already.

Churlant
12-30-2004, 07:15 PM
I'll take your word for that timeline, though I believe it doesn't require complete exaustion of He, only a fraction depletion is need for transformation to Red giant as there are multiple reactions that go on simultaniously.

Damn I forgot my astronomy already.

Really it doesn't much matter... I'm not likely to be around for it, and God help us all if the human race is still stuck on Earth :p

-JC

Redratio1
12-30-2004, 07:18 PM
Really it doesn't much matter... I'm not likely to be around for it, and God help us all if the human race is still stuck on Earth :p

-JC

Well if in a million years we are still stuck on this planet we deserve to be burnt to a crisp by the Sun. :cool:

billygardener
12-31-2004, 12:05 AM
it was those damn gays tryin to marry eachother. they caused it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








jk of course

Janet
12-31-2004, 12:18 AM
It's interesting to note that this big indonesian earthquake & disasterous tital waves came on Christmas day. Good timing for the Lord if he wanted to make a point. To those who believe, it's a point well taken!

boldnold

December 25th is probably NOT the actual date of Jesus' birth. It was, according to scholars, probably somewhere in February or March - by our current calendar.

The Christians adopted the pagan winter solstice observance with the oak tree, (which was changed to a pine tree because of it being green year-round), and the Roman holiday of Yuletide with the giving of gifts.

So, as you can see, Christmas - as it is observed today - is not actually a Christian holiday; and, furthermore, I don't believe that Jesus would be too happy that we have turned what should be a strictly religious observance into another money-grabbing event.

:sorry:

Janet
12-31-2004, 12:25 AM
it was those damn gays tryin to marry eachother. they caused it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








jk of course

Your opinion, of course. :rolleyes:

Boldnold
12-31-2004, 04:43 AM
I would say a few more disasters like what just happened in Indonesia, more big earthquakes in rapid succession killing hundreds of thousands more, Yellowstone blowing it's top again and toss in a small asteroid impact for good measure. After all of this happens and you hear the sound of distant trumpets and all or most of your friends disappear in front of you unexpectedly, then I think you have a good 'Rapture' receipe! If any of you 'are' still around after all of that, an update on 'What Going On' would be appreciated! For those of you who 'aren't', I guess you made it! After that it really doesn't matter does it?

Boldnold