Prince Harry's Gaffe

[Blueangel]

In a supreme gaffe, Prince Harry has hit the World headlines by wearing a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party.

Prince Harry is being urged to apologise in person for wearing a Nazi costume to a fancy dress party.
He apologised in a statement after being photographed wearing the desert uniform and swastika armband.

But former royal press spokesman Dicky Arbiter and the Tory leader Michael Howard said that was not good enough.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4170623.stm

How do you feel about this?

Personally, I'm of the opinion that this is a case of massive overkill and over reaction. as has also been highlighted by the press, when we have comedies that parody Nazis such as 'The Producers', and a long history of comedians donning this uniform, why should Harry be treated differently?

But, on a side note, it's customary to wear fancy dress on Boxing Night in my town and many others across the country. Last year I saw an arguement develop between regulars of my local pub and a man who was dressed in full Nazi uniform, that resulted in the man being barred for life.

You kind of get the feeling that the Queen will give Harry a good, hard slap for this gaffe. ;)

[::Major_Baker::]

He's a moron. Being part of the royal family embodies some respectfulness, and he should know he is in the public eye. It was just a dumb thing to do.

[GI Joe]

You would think someone would have told him it was in poor taste before he went to the party.
That said He is a kid, He screwed up, he apologized it should be done with

[beg your pardon]

Just a stupid mistake.

[ukangel]

He has done something extremely stupid but who hasnt ? He should apologise and move on. It will be a long time before he does anything that dumb again. You would think he would have been surronded by people who should have told him what a bad idea it was. I bet old Liz is spitting feathers :lol:

[green lantern]

He has done something extremely stupid but who hasnt ? He should apologise and move on. It will be a long time before he does anything that dumb again. You would think he would have been surronded by people who should have told him what a bad idea it was. I bet old Liz is spitting feathers :lol: i agree. apologize, and move on.

[The_Penguin]

I was pretty angry when I saw that. Since WWII raged across eastern europe for quite some time and countless millions have died at the hands of the Nazis and the USSR it was pretty offensive :mad: .

Apology is a start. Lets see what he does next.

[The_Penguin]

This act simply reinforces my belief that the royal family kids are nothing but spoiled brats that think that they can get away with anything.

I wonder what the action would have been if an individual of a lesser stature had done something like that? Mass litigation would have ensued, imo.

[Missouri Mule]

If an American had done something like this, it would be an outrage around the world and there would be calls for his immediate execution.

Personally, I don't care.

[historyteach]

It WAS totally stupid.
He SHOULD have had advisors to tell him so...cuz he IS a kid. He doesn't know the blitzkrig that the English people suffered. That his great - grandmother , the "Queen Mum" led the English people through. Personally. She was called, by Hitler, the "most dangerous woman in the world." Because she led her people through that disaster....walking the rubble with the people...suffering with them...caring for them. She was a PART of the people during that hard time. They didn't forget. The English responded with total love and admiration for her actions.
Since his advisors didn't tell him so....he needs new ones. His advisors definatley forgot.
But, I'll bet he won't ever forget this one...
It just depends on what he does with it....Time will tell...
Shalom!

[Democritus]

It WAS totally stupid.
He SHOULD have had advisors to tell him so...cuz he IS a kid. He doesn't know the blitzkrig that the English people suffered. That his great - grandmother , the "Queen Mum" led the English people through. Personally. She was called, by Hitler, the "most dangerous woman in the world." Because she led her people through that disaster....walking the rubble with the people...suffering with them...caring for them. She was a PART of the people during that hard time. They didn't forget. The English responded with total love and admiration for her actions.
Since his advisors didn't tell him so....he needs new ones. His advisors definatley forgot.
But, I'll bet he won't ever forget this one...
It just depends on what he does with it....Time will tell...
Shalom!


I hate to nitpick, but the English didn't suffer through the blitzkrieg unless they were visiting France when it happened. Don't get me wrong, the British suffered, just not from that. As for the impact of his costume... Yes it was tasteless, but it was a costume.

He's 20. He wore a tasteless costume to a friend's birthday party. how many of us can honestly say we didn't do at least one thing that was collossally stupid when we were (or are, as the case may be) that age? The only reason it's an issue, is because he's a celebrity.

[The_Penguin]

He's 20. He wore a tasteless costume to a friend's birthday party. how many of us can honestly say we didn't do at least one thing that was collossally stupid when we were (or are, as the case may be) that age? The only reason it's an issue, is because he's a celebrity.
You have a good point. I'm now content with his apology.

[historyteach]

Dem;
The English DID suffer during the blitzkrig...what are you saying???
And I said it was a stupid mistake...I'm NOT making a big deal out of it. He SHOULD have had advisors informing him of the gaffe he was making....because in his position, it IS a big deal...much more sothan for any of us!
Shalom!

[Blueangel]

Dem;
The English DID suffer during the blitzkrig...what are you saying???
Thanks HistoryTeach!

An average 10,000 Londoners PER NIGHT died in the Blitz!
You're talking 3x 9/11 every night for 40 consecutive nights!

The Queen Mother went on national radio the day after Buck House was bombed and said she could finally hold her head up amongst the people of London now that her home had been bombed too.

[Democritus]

I'm saying that you're mistaking the term. You should have read the whole sentence. Blitzkrieg, or 'Lightning War' was a term used to describe the conquest of Poland, and later France. The process consisted of breaking through the enemy lines and outflanking them. Anihilating the weaker, support units to essentially incapacitate the combat units. Tactically, it was a brilliant, and incredibly effective plan, for a land war.

The Battle of Britain, could not opperate in the same way. It consisted of relentless bombings. The British people certainly suffered, but not from the Blitzkrieg.

I warned you I was nitpicking, but I'm a fan of military history and strategy.


As for it being a big deal because of his position, I agree. But that's the only reason it's a big deal. We really should be content with his appology. It's not like he's a celebrity by choice, where we can sit back and say 'he should have known he'd be famous when he became an actor/singer/whatever'. He was born into it. Sure it has it's perks, but it doesn't make him any less human, or any less fallible.

[Blueangel]

I'm saying that you're mistaking the term. You should have read the whole sentence. Blitzkrieg, or 'Lightning War' was a term used to describe the conquest of Poland, and later France.
Blitz, the German word for 'lightning', was applied by the British press to the tempest of heavy and frequent bombing raids carried out over Britain in 1940 and 1941.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/blitz_01.shtml

Even The Imperial War Museum disagrees with you.
http://cwr.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00f006004

[historyteach]

Well, I came upon this late.
Dem, I will state this ... I am NOT a military historian. And my area of expertise in history is the ancient world and Post WWII America. So, this question is NOT within my forte.
However, the classes that I've taken; the books I've read; have ALL refered to the bombings of England as a blitzkrig. A "lighting war." Swift, hot, disasterous. They flew over; bombed and ran away before any retaliation was possible because, like lighting, it was unpredictable where it would land.
That's all class.... :D
Shalom!

[GI Joe]

Blitzkrieg means "lightening war". Blitzkrieg was a German tactic used in World War Two based on speed and surprise and needed a military force to be based around light tank units supported by planes and infantry (foot soldiers). The tactic was developed in Germany by an army officer called Hans Guderian. He had written a military pamphlet called "Achtung Panzer" which got into the hands of Hitler. As a tactic it was used to devastating effect in the first years of World War Two and resulted in the British and French armies being pushed back in just a few weeks to the beaches of Dunkirk and the Russian army being devastated in the attack on Russia in June 1941

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/blitzkrieg.htm


I always thaught it was what this defiinition said it is

[GI Joe]

The Concept of Blitzkrieg.

1. Airforce attacks enemy front-line and rear positions, main roads, airfields and communication centers. At the same time infantry attacks on the entire frontline (or at least at main places) and engages enemy. This restrains the enemy from knowing where the main force will attack and makes it impossible to prepare any defenses.
2. Concentrated tank units breakthrough main lines of defense and advance deeper into enemy territory, while following mechanized units pursuit and engage defenders preventing them from establishing defensive postions. Infantry continues to engage enemy to misinform and keep enemy forces from withdrawing and establishing effective defense.
3. Infantry and other support units attack enemy flanks in order to link up with other groups to complete the attack and eventually encircle the enemy and/or capture strategic position.
4. Mechanized groups spearhead deeper into the enemy territory outflanking the enemy positions and paralyzing the rear preventing withdrawing troops and defenders from establishing effective defensive positions.
5. Main force links up with other units encircling and cutting off the enemy.

more
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/blitz.htm

[jamesrage]

In a supreme gaffe, Prince Harry has hit the World headlines by wearing a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party.

I guess all those genrations of the royal family inbreeding could not handle handle DNA from outside the family.Why don't the British taxpayers disolve the royal family and take back the money that was stolen from them?Just take back every cent that was taken for the past hundred years or so and force these people to work at a Mcdonalds.They are bums.The royal family is nothing but worthless mascots.They are the biggest welfare and foodstamps recipiants in the world.

[Unrepentant]

I guess all those genrations of the royal family inbreeding could not handle handle DNA from outside the family.Why don't the British taxpayers disolve the royal family and take back the money that was stolen from them?Just take back every cent that was taken for the past hundred years or so and force these people to work at a Mcdonalds.They are bums.The royal family is nothing but worthless mascots.They are the biggest welfare and foodstamps recipiants in the world.
Wow, that's harsh! Then again, there are those among us who would express similar sentiments about the current tax-payer supported occupant of a large tax-payer owned and operated residence in Washington.

[USViking]

This is sort of a fine point, but I do not
think it is too finnicky:

"Blitz" refers to the bombing campaign
by Germany against the UK; it has to
do only with aerial bombing, mostly
by high-altitude horizontal aircraft.

"Bitzkreig" refers to the combined aerial
and mechanized assault tactics which
the Germans used while they were on
the offensive. The planes used were
usually dive-bombers and strafing fighters.

Since high-level horizontal bombing was
not accurate enough for "blitzkreg", it
was used mostly against population centers.

[Simba]

In a supreme gaffe, Prince Harry has hit the World headlines by wearing a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4170623.stm

How do you feel about this?

Personally, I'm of the opinion that this is a case of massive overkill and over reaction. as has also been highlighted by the press, when we have comedies that parody Nazis such as 'The Producers', and a long history of comedians donning this uniform, why should Harry be treated differently?

But, on a side note, it's customary to wear fancy dress on Boxing Night in my town and many others across the country. Last year I saw an arguement develop between regulars of my local pub and a man who was dressed in full Nazi uniform, that resulted in the man being barred for life.

You kind of get the feeling that the Queen will give Harry a good, hard slap for this gaffe. ;)

What an idiot.........Here's the real question....did he inherit the idiocy from mom or from dad....or both?

[jamesrage]

I guess after all those generations of inbreeding the royal family couldn't handle outside DNA.

[Blueangel]

I more reminded of the old biker phrase,

"The good we do they never remember.
The bad we do they never forget."

[jamesrage]

What good has the royal family done besides attending banquets and thinking they are special because of birthrite?

[Blueangel]

What good has the royal family done besides attending banquets and thinking they are special because of birthrite?
He spent eight weeks in the impoverished southern African country Lesotho working at a children's orphanage.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3664654.stm

What did you do today?

[Simba]

Everyone has dreams. I always had this dream, since childhood....I heard everyone has a particular one....a private world...that they retreat to during times of stress.....mine was being called up....and told the royal family was wiped out....and I was somehow distant related....well...that part of the dream wasn't important.

Anyway, I got to be king. It was always a sweet reverie. I think I would make one hell of a good king. King Simba the First....or the Great....hmmm...damn....gotta give that one some thought. Blue, sweetie....give me a title there English girl.

Beer would be the national drink. We would decide that Germans could no longer have Oktoberfest, and we would do it right. I would command the top intellectuals of Oxford to come up with some good thinking about why it was really an English thing. We would also come up with cooler badges. Hell, there would be badges for everything. People like badges. If you yelled the loudest at a Manchester United game, and went to every event, you would get some badge and pension. Maybe beer for life. I dunno. We would think of something good, because I would be king.

Girls? Hell, the mini would be back in, and the boots too, you know, the Twiggy look and "To Sir With Love," stuff. And lots of Union Jacks everywhere. Druids would be in, and Stonehenge would be some kinda shrine, with lots of music and parades from the Black Watch and all, and beer. Yeah, that one for sure. The Black Watch would be in with me. I like those guys.

Did I mention girls? Oh yeah. Well the wife is French, but I love her. She could wear the mini still, so guess she will make one fine Queen.

Buckingham would be an open door palace. Parties every weekend. We would do the invitations my mail code, not rank and ****. That way everyone gets to come to one hell of a party once in their life. Now, let me think about dinner...hmmmm, could teach the cooks to fire up some nice black bean soup and catfish fried when we start having people over. What do you think?

[Simba]

Oh yeah, one more thing...or two. Speed bumps would be outlawed, and we would go back to those red phone booths. After midnight it would be legal to have sex in them. That would be what I would do if I was king.

[jamesrage]

What did you do today?

THat would be nice if I could mooch off tax payers to pay for and do **** like that and to not have to work.

[tactic]

In a supreme gaffe, Prince Harry has hit the World headlines by wearing a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4170623.stm

How do you feel about this?



I think it's more the fact that this comes near to the commemorations for the holocaust which Harry will be attending; it isn't very appropriate when you take that into account.

That said, as a prince he will always be in the public spotlight, so he really should take care so as not to offend people, particularly when you consider just how low the parparazzi will stoop to make money.