Boys arrested for stick figure drawings

[Rivet]

Maybe they were just playing hangman?

OCALA, Florida (AP) -- Two boys were arrested for making pencil-and-crayon stick figure drawings depicting a 10-year-old classmate being stabbed and hung, police said. The children, charged with a felony, were taken from school in handcuffs.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01/26/drawings.arrests.ap/index.html

[Strel]

Maybe the "evil" ACLU will come to their aid.


:lol:

[Churlant]

Maybe the "evil" ACLU will come to their aid.


:lol:

Heheh... I'd thought about that ;) But... well you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe students carry full constitutional protections..

-JC

[Rivet]

Maybe the "evil" ACLU will come to their aid.


They can claim that they are satanists and were just practicing their religion. :lol:

[Myglarn]

This is out of hands.. why the h*ll do you need to handcuff two boys 10 and 9 years old? Did they put them i arrest too? Sheesh i think this is more a problem for the school to deal with not the police.

However it is good that they are taking it seriously since bullying should be dealt with swiftly and forcefully (however handcuffing is a bit over the edge).

[Churlant]

This is out of hands.. why the h*ll do you need to handcuff two boys 10 and 9 years old? Did they put them i arrest too? Sheesh i think this is more a problem for the school to deal with not the police.

However it is good that they are taking it seriously since bullying should be dealt with swiftly and forcefully (however handcuffing is a bit over the edge).

Columbine...

Not saying it's completely rational... but that's the reason why. Personally I'd get these kids help. I doubt they're bullies - bullies tend to do less drawing and more bullying. Either way, counseling is a must.

-JC

[Democritus]

I'm suddenly glad I grew up in a very laid back town. I was bullied, I know I said things worse, or more cynical then that.


Things not to say in a lunchline:
"I wish he were dead."
"Well at least then we'd get a day off..."

Not one of my prouder moments. Fortunately we were two of the best behaved students. They never got around to making me serve detention...

In retrospect, I could've been expelled. (I said the second one.) Come to think of it, it was almost immediately after that second school shooting. I was not a bright child.

[Churlant]

I'm suddenly glad I grew up in a very laid back town. I was bullied, I know I said things worse, or more cynical then that.


Things not to say in a lunchline:
"I wish he were dead."
"Well at least then we'd get a day off..."

Not one of my prouder moments. Fortunately we were two of the best behaved students. They never got around to making me serve detention...

In retrospect, I could've been expelled. (I said the second one.) Come to think of it, it was almost immediately after that second school shooting. I was not a bright child.

Doesn't seem too extreme to me... there is a level of progression on this stuff you know ;)

"I wish he were dead" < Drawing images of people being stabbed/hanged/shot < actually planning out how you would kill a person < grabbing a bunch of guns and going to town

Hell, we've all wished death upon someone at some point, even if our deeper selves might not have meant it (or did). The point is that a kid is probably the last person who will have the maturity and self-control to avoid saying such thoughts out loud.

Which is why you don't hear "I'm going to kill you!" around the office...

Anyway... if it were a couple of kids in a lunchline talking it wouldn't trouble me nearly as much as the "artwork".

-JC

[Turenne]

Things not to say in a lunchline:
"I wish he were dead."
"Well at least then we'd get a day off..."



I find it incredible that you would get detention for saying that.Thats regular talk were i came from,in my old school cases of bullying,swearing and general fighting were numerous and common.Half of my year was in detention every friday.But then again I did grow up in one of the worlds worst areas for suicide,so maybe my school was special...

Maybe they were just playing hangman?

Clearly they are evil.Maybe the electric chair will make them think twice? :rolleyes:

[Strel]

They can claim that they are satanists and were just practicing their religion. :lol:


Yeah could be! Devil-worshipers have rights too...:devil:

They probably won't though...it is too easy to cast this sort of thing outside of free speech protection, especially within a school. I think it is a bit of an overreaction, but then again this is Ocala we are talking about...

[Rivet]

Which is why you don't hear "I'm going to kill you!" around the office...


They just put your name in their PDA .... people I'm going to kill list.

[Dutch]

I find it incredible that you would get detention for saying that.Thats regular talk were i came from,in my old school cases of bullying,swearing and general fighting were numerous and common.Half of my year was in detention every friday.But then again I did grow up in one of the worlds worst areas for suicide,so maybe my school was special...



Clearly they are evil.Maybe the electric chair will make them think twice? :rolleyes:

I fought a number of times. I felt I had to. I even remember a teacher in tempe ariz giving two guys who had a beef with each other boxing gloves and letting them go at it outside. That was the best boxing demonstration I ever saw.

This case is just another in a long line of complete over-reactions. There is a segment of our society that seems determined to feminize boys, which is surprisingly easy considering something like half of them, at our school, are being raised without their biological fathers.

[Mirror Lake 444]

This reminds me of when I got in big trouble for drawing myself peeing in the snow when I was in 1st grade at about 4 years of age. In retrospect I was simply drawing something natural without a bad thought in my mind, but my teacher and my parents went beserk. Still pisses me off. (No pun intended) :lol: :lol: :lol:

To this day I want to kill somone when I see yellow snow! Just kidding! :lol:

[TechieMike]

Maybe they were just playing hangman?



http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01/26/drawings.arrests.ap/index.htmla felony?? SMH

I remember as a kid I used to draw spaceships shooting at other spaceships, wonder if that would set up a trigger at DHS.

[dittohead not!]

I fought a number of times. I felt I had to. I even remember a teacher in tempe ariz giving two guys who had a beef with each other boxing gloves and letting them go at it outside. That was the best boxing demonstration I ever saw.

We used to do that, many years ago. It would usually put an end to hostilities, and no one would get hurt. I can remember one smaller boy who bloodied the nose of a larger one who had been bullying him (well, not seriously hurt!) Of course today, putting boxing gloves on kids and letting them have at it would bring national attention, probably get teachers fired and the school under lockdown.

This case is just another in a long line of complete over-reactions. There is a segment of our society that seems determined to feminize boys, which is surprisingly easy considering something like half of them, at our school, are being raised without their biological fathers.

Totally, complete, overreaction. What a farce, charging two kids with felonies no less for having made stick drawings. Sometimes I think we've fallen down the rabbit hole.

I'd have taken the drawings away from them and told them to get to work or lose their recess, end of story. The drawings would have gone in the trash.

[Atticus]

I'd have taken the drawings away from them and told them to get to work or lose their recess, end of story. The drawings would have gone in the trash.Obviously, you never made administrator. You're not sufficiently paranoid.

[dittohead not!]

Obviously, you never made administrator. You're not sufficiently paranoid.

Actually, I did, but it didn't last. I must not have beem paranoid enough.:lol:

[HAVOC451]

This is an awfully old thread. Anyone know what became of this case?