After Jesus's 1,000 Years?

[Churlant]

I'm curious to know what happens after Jesus has his 1,000 year party... err... rule... well, whatever you want to call it, we're in for 1K of submission to the big guy (note God Himself would be the Big Guy) - and THEN we (that is those lucky True Believers) get to... what? Get to what?

Yeah, I know, Revelations is a "bit vague" in details. I've been looking around, but sure enough - I can't find much.

Oh sure, there's the usual:


What will happen after God's plan of salvation has been completed and the earth purged by fire (II Peter 3:10-12; see "Does Peter Predict the Total Destruction of the Earth in II Peter 3:10?" for an explanation) is found in Revelation 21:

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle [dwelling] of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God." (verses 1-3)

At that time, the earth will become the headquarters of God's Kingdom for the entire universe, and from that time forward it will never cease to expand (Luke 1:33; Isaiah 9:7). We can only guess what members of God's Family will do.


http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.showResource/CT/BQA/k/49

Uhm.. so yeah, not much on detail. Pretty - but no detail. I'm not really interested in what the Bible says on the subject, but more in what the Bible's regular readership believes will take place.

Or anyone else for that matter. So please, accept the End Times will occur as described and follow me a bit further into the rabbit hole...

...what happens after everything happens?

Personally it seems that 1,000 years is a bit arbitrary. And really, Jesus might find he wants the throne a bit longer... but in the end, he'll get bored (or WE will) and something is bound to shake up.

So, assuming this stuff takes place within another 1,000 years (safe assumption), what will the Universe (and Earth especially) be like in the year 4010 (give or take) ?

-JC

[xexon]

Jesus was a messiah. He is one of many who came before him. But he is not the last.

The reason that messiahs bless us with their presence is one of great love. They come to make corrections in our ever drifting path toward the very origins of who we truly are. We are already divine ourselves, but have forgotten because we become hypnotized by the material world around us.

We forgot our way home. Messiahs, come into the world to point the way back. There is a period of great and wonderous activity, such as Jesus demonstrated. Then, there are long periods of contemplation upon the actions of that person. The lessons take a long time to set, as evolution has to weigh one thing against another to determine it's worth. A millenium is nothing in such refinement of values.

Most agree that the modern day religions have lost their way. They have become lost sheep, just as in Jesus' time.

This sets the stage for another messiah.





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[Churlant]

Jesus was a messiah. He is one of many who came before him. But he is not the last.

The reason that messiahs bless us with their presence is one of great love. They come to make corrections in our ever drifting path toward the very origins of who we truly are. We are already divine ourselves, but have forgotten because we become hypnotized by the material world around us.

We forgot our way home. Messiahs, come into the world to point the way back. There is a period of great and wonderous activity, such as Jesus demonstrated. Then, there are long periods of contemplation upon the actions of that person. The lessons take a long time to set, as evolution has to weigh one thing against another to determine it's worth. A millenium is nothing in such refinement of values.

Most agree that the modern day religions have lost their way. They have become lost sheep, just as in Jesus' time.

This sets the stage for another messiah.





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Uhhh... yeah.. I mean, that's great... but it really has not much to do with my question :p

-JC

[xexon]

Ha ha ha. Yes it does.



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[Rivet]

So, assuming this stuff takes place within another 1,000 years (safe assumption), what will the Universe (and Earth especially) be like in the year 4010 (give or take) ?


4010! All I know is I won't be around. :)

[Churlant]

Ha ha ha. Yes it does.



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Perhaps in a bit more abstract manner than I was requesting. If you mean history simply repeats itself, you could have just said so :p

-JC

[xexon]

Now what fun would that have been?

Your mental muscle is now stronger because I made you exercise it.



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[Churlant]

Now what fun would that have been?

Your mental muscle is now stronger because I made you exercise it.



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:D

Seriously now :p I knew what you were trying to say, but you moved out of the restrictions I set down. You don't get to make up additional rules - I already set them up for you ;)

Now, going by your hypothesis of history repeating... it is important to note that by this time Satan is no longer around. So, in theory, there would be no temptations to sin and we should all get along.

Now, I think it'd be cool if another angel got a bit pissed because Jesus was hogging all the fun, and went all renegade... in which case I suppose we'd be repeating things pretty well.

So what would the moral of this story be? Kill all the angels before they cause trouble!

As for you Rivet... damnit... I prefer Xexon's zig-zagging prose to someone who gives up so easily :p

-JC

[Albert]

Oh my, dipping into Revelations one of my favorite subjects.

CpWill and I do not agree but I think that you can’t really appreciate Revelations unless you read John’s other work. (This is where CP and I differ) If you read the Gnostic Text, in particular the Apocryphon of John http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html and the Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/actp.html you may discern a certain style of writing that taken as a work of metaphor, convey a consistent theme of the battle between selfish interests and selfless love. If John wrote all three books you might take Revelations, perhaps his last, as saying, “You stupid people are going to have to destroy your world before you are going to appreciate what Jesus was tell you” or if you keep in mind that fire, in those days, was considered a cleansing agent it could mean that when people burn all the materialism from their lives peace will reign for one thousand years, which in those days would seem like forever.

[heel31ok]

Oh my, dipping into Revelations one of my favorite subjects.

CpWill and I do not agree but I think that you can’t really appreciate Revelations unless you read John’s other work. (This is where CP and I differ) If you read the Gnostic Text, in particular the Apocryphon of John http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html and the Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/actp.html you may discern a certain style of writing that taken as a work of metaphor, convey a consistent theme of the battle between selfish interests and selfless love. If John wrote all three books you might take Revelations, perhaps his last, as saying, “You stupid people are going to have to destroy your world before you are going to appreciate what Jesus was tell you” or if you keep in mind that fire, in those days, was considered a cleansing agent it could mean that when people burn all the materialism from their lives peace will reign for one thousand years, which in those days would seem like forever.
It is the Book of Revelation.The Revelation of Jesus Christ.

[cpwill]

indeed, albert and i's disagreement over this stem from the issue of authorship.

however, i'll fully admit that other than a few outlying facts i really don't think i am authority enough to comment on revelations; except to state that whoever wrote it was clearly either in some kind of spiritual trance or a genius.

[JoeR]

I thought Revelations was an allegory about Rome?

[cpwill]

:shrug: one interpretation. as i recall, the number 666 written out phonetically in hebrew is supposed to spell "nero" or something like that. as i stated, i don't have much of an idea about how to approach revelations.

[Rivet]

As for you Rivet... damnit... I prefer Xexon's zig-zagging prose to someone who gives up so easily

Sorry, I didn't have anything more clever to say.

I was actually thinking more along the lines of what Xeon was saying. Things just start over. God does a "reboot". :)

[Churlant]

:shrug: one interpretation. as i recall, the number 666 written out phonetically in hebrew is supposed to spell "nero" or something like that. as i stated, i don't have much of an idea about how to approach revelations.

Well who does? That's kind of the point ;) You don't have to be an authority on the subject to make some educated guesses, do you? Unless such a thing is a dogmatic no-no... in which case I suppose that's cool.

Personally I don't like the idea of a 'reboot'. Sooner or later it would get boring... and the Sun won't last forever. I do enjoy Albert's interpretation of Revelations however...

As for me... I'd think the utopian ideal would be realized by that point. Of course, we'd be back to boredom again... after all, how many works of literature would we have without our most basic conflicts in life?

-JC

[cpwill]

Well who does? That's kind of the point You don't have to be an authority on the subject to make some educated guesses, do you? Unless such a thing is a dogmatic no-no... in which case I suppose that's cool.

it's just that on a subject such as this i wouldn't feel comfortable guessing.
once i learn to read ancient greek and can get around it in it's original; i may get back to you.