Bible bashed

[tdb]

have you ever been bible bashed? some random dude come up off the road and tell yu about jesus out of nowere? How does it feal to have some one randomly push there religion on you? what would you do how would you respond? personally Id return the bash he he he :)

[bowerbird]

I just tell them I am a member of the solipsistic society of latterday puritanical perfunctiory panthietists. That confuses them enough for me to exit stage left.

[HAVOC451]

You could always read the book. Many people that wave their bible around aren't prepared for solid, well thought out counterpoint. Alot of them haven't read the whole thing themselves.

[Craig]

have you ever been bible bashed? some random dude come up off the road and tell yu about jesus out of nowere? How does it feal to have some one randomly push there religion on you? what would you do how would you respond? personally Id return the bash he he he :)

I can't say that I've had that experience yet, though I have plenty of time for it to occur in the future, presupposing that I do not die in the next few years.

[Albert]

I’ve gotten into quoting contests but that seems to just get them going. I used to get rid of them by telling them I was Catholic, but that’s not working anymore since many of our newest evangelicals are coming from us RC’s. So now I tell them the truth, I’m a follower of the Mohawk Band of Reformed Catholic Zen Buddhists and since their words have no permanence they are floating in one ear and out the other. I then invite them to change their ways and join me in my sweat lodge. Usually they run, I had one stay once, which was, ....awkward.

[Madrigalian]

When they knock on my door I generally tell them that I am a Druid and worship trees. Then while they try and mull that over I go into my own sermon about how trees are the protectors and gaurdians of our planet and eco-system and ask when the last time was they planted a tree. Usually about the time I offer to take their name and number (in order to send them a few young saplings for planting) they turn around and run for the hills.

But I think I like Bowerbird's religion better. =)

I used to take them seriously, invite them in and offer to "debate and discuss" their religious views in context with my own. Always seemed to me though that they never had any intrest in hearing any ideas but their own though. I remember once it was a family, Mom, Dad, daughter and son... About 20 minutes into the conversation the Mom was ushering everyone out of my house obviously not happy with me for "corrupting" her children. /shrug

[green lantern]

I just tell them I am a member of the solipsistic society of latterday puritanical perfunctiory panthietists. That confuses them enough for me to exit stage left.(green lantern shakes head, utterly confused) :confused: :lol:

[cpwill]

puritanical pantheists :lol:

[el nopal]

I must stand out. I am approached by a person with a bible (different versions by the way) WEEKLY. Sometimes I have lengthy conversations with the individual.

Sometimes I just take a card which invites me to their services.

In each instance of approach, I always show respect and decorum. It is the best advice I can give anyone.

However, I have found a way to distinguish between a proselytizer with good intentions >versus< the proselytizer with no intentions to help other humanbeings.

This is seen in volunteer work or donating time to help others. I have decided to give back "my own message of help" to the person with the "message of god."

After the person has asked if I:

- "Accept Jesus in my heart"
- "Received the word of the lord"
- "Want to understand my purpose in life"
- "Know about the way of the lord"
- "Witnessed the grandeur of god"
- "realize the peace and harmony I will experience and live in after death- once I believe in (said religious belief)"

After all of these messages (and more) -I give them a card I have with one of any various humanitarian organization's contact information on it.
These include:

-Red Cross ( Not for Jehovas Witnesses).
-National Center for Missing and Exploited children.
-Amnesty International.
-International Goodwill Industries
-AIDS Awareness
-Doctors without Borders
-Action without Borders
-Abroo Educational Welfare Organization

Any of these usually throw off the messenger. I think it is our active duty to remind others that there is more to this world then solely the spreading of words. We must participate in helping mankind together.

[gopman]

Every single week some guy comes out with a Bible and starts jabbering at me for about an hour.

[Chidi]

I think there should be laws about directly approaching people with religion, maybe like a two month community service sentance to be carried out in the local satanist church or for the satanists you could make it the vatican. :lol:

[cicero191]

Every single week some guy comes out with a Bible and starts jabbering at me for about an hour.

On campus or off? If it's on campus, I have some suggestions for you.

[Draft Dodger]

I think there should be laws about directly approaching people with religion, maybe like a two month community service sentance to be carried out in the local satanist church or for the satanists you could make it the vatican. :lol:
A tolerant freedom of speech advocate I see.

[Craig]

A tolerant freedom of speech advocate I see.

What about the freedom not to be randomly accosted by a religious person to whom you do not wish to speak?

[RageKage]

I love it when worshippers of a Church of Christ come and talk to me. I'm always up for a discussion of religion. I just try to open them to my religious belief's as much as they try with me.

Usually they get uncomfortable and flee after the initial excitement of finding someone willing to talk to them wears off.

[Draft Dodger]

What about the freedom not to be randomly accosted by a religious person to whom you do not wish to speak?You mean the right to not be approached by another person for the purpose of conversation?

Gee, where is that freedom written?

You do have the right to ignore or walk away! I personally believe you have the right to punch the person in the nose if they won't leave when you ask.But our government would send their police and lawyers after you for assaulting the person.

Although maybe not if it involved a religious person.

[gopman]

On campus or off? If it's on campus, I have some suggestions for you.

On Church.

[AgentM]

I've never had the pleasure of being Bible bashed. I think I'd respectfully tell them that I'm not interested. I don't see the point of debating with them since usually the ones that go door to door trying to "save you from hell" aren't really open for debates on their religion.

[Viking]

What about the freedom not to be randomly accosted by a religious person to whom you do not wish to speak?

There is no such freedom....
You do not have the right to not be offended. Just like I dont have the right to go up and punch stupid people. Whatever happened to freedom of choice. If you dont like something you see on tv, hear on the radio, you have the freedom of choice to switch it or switch it off. Same thing applies here, I tell them no thanks. If they keep following tell them youll do one of 2 things, kick their ***** or have them arrested for harassment. 100% of the people that have contacted me have always excepted the "no thanks" approach and I didnt have to lower myself to threaten them. God this country is going to *****. Whatever happened to personal responsibility....oh yeah thats right....Political Correctness killed that.

[el nopal]

I've never had the pleasure of being Bible bashed. I think I'd respectfully tell them that I'm not interested. I don't see the point of debating with them since usually the ones that go door to door trying to "save you from hell" aren't really open for debates on their religion.

Agreed, although RageKage reminded me of what I used to do to "door to door" prosyletizers. - I used to listen and act as if I was almost convinced. Then I would state at the last minute (after 40 minutes of listening) that I was not that interested in their concepts. That they simply did not appeal to me.

A few times, I was so annoying and frustrating to some of these individuals, that they started to turn red in the face (from anger)....-I would have to flee! One of them was a Jehovah's Witness who almost hit me in the head because he didn't like my questions.

[Craig]

You mean the right to not be approached by another person for the purpose of conversation?

Gee, where is that freedom written?

You do have the right to ignore or walk away! I personally believe you have the right to punch the person in the nose if they won't leave when you ask.But our government would send their police and lawyers after you for assaulting the person.

Although maybe not if it involved a religious person.

It's not a freedom, but it ought to be one. I can see how it would grow extremely irritating if one constantly had religious people randomly walking up to you and trying to talk to you on the subject, or convert you. I have no problem talking about Christianity or anything else, but I wouldn't want people whom I don't even know trying to start a discussion about it with me constantly.

[Stinky Star]

Praize Jeeeeeezus!

Not get off topic but.......

Where is Captain America? Why can't he post? Did I miss something?

Gawd will strike you down for messin' with the good cap'n! Halalujah!

There..........just wanted to be religious.

Stinky Star
aka CA

[tdb]

well now If someone bible bashes me I usually tell them I am a born again christian and attempt to pray for them....

To tell the truth I love some of the bible bashers get to no ths social ones there pretty nice. Thanks for all the replies lol

[lmk3822]

Never been bible bashed. I don't feel like there is any reason for people to do that in the first place. Especially in this country we have this thing called seperation of church and state. A person should not come upon another person and start with religion. Who are they anyway to do that? God? Besides isn't that one of the top 3 things you are not supposed to talk about?.....

[Rivet]

Especially in this country we have this thing called seperation of church and state.

Does not apply


Besides isn't that one of the top 3 things you are not supposed to talk about?.....

Yah, that and politics. Hey, wait a minute! Maybe everyone here should stop talking about religion and politics. :lol: :lol:

I don't know what the third is. Sex maybe?

[xexon]

Tell them you're Jewish, they'll leave you alone.

Works on Hare Krishna's too.


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[el nopal]

Praize Jeeeeeezus!

Not get off topic but.......

Where is Captain America? Why can't he post? Did I miss something?

Gawd will strike you down for messin' with the good cap'n! Halalujah!

There..........just wanted to be religious.

Stinky Star
aka CA

Already among the banned... a new unmentionable record.

[freckled fanny]

When zealots come to my door, I simply explain that religion is a family matter in our household so, "If you don't mind coming back around 6:30 p.m., my husband and his other wives will be home. Then you can witness to all of us at once." You know, they never come back.

[cicero191]

Already among the banned... a new unmentionable record.

Au contraire. Someone else was recently banned after five.

[historyteach]

Well, I can tell you one thing...
I AM Jewish; it doesn't matter to the Evangelical crowd.
Just try and go to a Jewish Chat room, and listen to the messianiacs. They are maniacal!
And insulting.
And pathetic!
Shalom!

[Chrysalis]

If approached on the street by a religious zealot, I tell them no thanks and keep walking. When they come to my door I tell them I'm not receiving visitors at this time. At all times I remain polite but firm. So far it has worked.

[el nopal]

Au contraire. Someone else was recently banned after five.
wait, does that make 3 in the past few days?

[Kong]

have you ever been bible bashed? some random dude come up off the road and tell yu about jesus out of nowere

I’ve been bible bashed many times by Born Agains, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and various cults. I don’t waste my time anymore. In the early years I would talk to all of them but it always was without any benefit. Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses were the most polite, hell fire Christians I can do without.

The last time I spoke to a bible basher was about 7 years ago. Two young men knocked on my door after dark. Not knowing who they were and having a family to protect I stuck a large caliber pistol behind back and opened the door.

The conversation started out something like “do you know where you are going when you die?” I said no where? The response was something like, will if you don’t know you're probably unfortunately going to hell. They were absolutely sure where they were going and it sounded like a very nice place. I’d have done them the favor of sending them but I didn’t think a jury would understand my benevolent intentions.

Since then I no longer answer my door to strangers and I politely decline or ignore an offer to discuss religious beliefs in the street.

[Mattbeekler]

Eventually I get annoyed talking to these religious fanatics. After a while I realize how brain-washed and ignorant they are, believing something so blindly, and not even thinking about it, or about anything for that matter. These are the people who tend to jump into the main stream of everything, afraid of being alone and afraid of being rejected they are just trendy. Trendy for life, yes... well sometimes. I wish i could just make them open their eyes, or to quote Covey, change their pardigm.

Heres my basic thought on religion... Religion was developed long ago to give people power, its nothing but a monarchy. Despite the fact it works so damn well I do not personally agree with it.

[cpwill]

your basic thought has problems; not least of which is managing to explain, then, how religion manages to flourish when it not only fails to give power, but instead awards quite the opposite.

[Russikan]

Because we all know that the Pope is a poor powerless old man.

Really cp you try to deny the basic facts which are that religeon gives pastors and their bosses power over what other people think and gives them money without having to find another job (some get quite rich).

[cpwill]

really russikan you need to look past christianity in america if you're going to talk about "religion"

take a look at christianity practiced in, oh, say, saudi arabia? if religion's goal is power then what's the point of it there? falun gung in china? how about early christianity, where merely joining the church could be a death scentance? if religion is only about power, where is the power inherent in getting executed by the state.

:sorry: but the argument that religion is about power just doesn't hold up.

furthermore, as a PK i can assure you, rare indeed is the minister who get's rich.

[Mattbeekler]

your basic thought has problems; not least of which is managing to explain, then, how religion manages to flourish when it not only fails to give power, but instead awards quite the opposite.

I'll just give one example, as i have to leave for work in 10 minutes. In the 1970's-80's Irans Ayatollah Kohnami started a holy war, sent poor, meager Shiites to their practical suicide against Iraq forces. This is not only a example of how religion creates power over people, but how it is abused. These people who he sent to die in suicide attacks were not educated, weathly people, but instead all poor un-educated people.... Religion does not give power? Rethink your argument.

[cpwill]

religion can give power, but giving power is not inherent to religion; there are too many counterexamples. rethink your argument to where it will conform to reality.

[Russikan]

So being a minority in any given place which practices prejudice against the minorities doesn't give power, but where ever a religeon was created or grew popular it was based on power.

[Relient Halo]

True, that while there are those who abuse religion (just as there are those who abuse other positions of power *coPOLITICSugh*) you have to look past them and see the ones who love what they do and have a passion for their god(s). Really, you can apply your position of power argument to any aspect of life, so why then do we have leaders in other areas of our lives? Why do we always have a boss? They are only there to gain from our ignorance and stupidity, right? Look past the liars and see them for the wolves they, let it go, and then find the real deals.

[bowerbird]

furthermore, as a PK i can assure you, rare indeed is the minister who get's rich.

"But God didn't mean us to be poo-er" Tammy Baker

[xexon]

Oh No!!!

You've invoked the name of Tammy Faye.

Now we got 7 more years of bad luck.

I hear she is dying of lung cancer. Most unfortunate.





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[el nopal]

Oh No!!!

You've invoked the name of Tammy Faye.

Now we got 7 more years of bad luck.

I hear she is dying of lung cancer. Most unfortunate.





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I can't believe she has eye cancer.... err.. I mean lung cancer.

[tdb]

Since then I no longer answer my door to strangers and I politely decline or ignore an offer to discuss religious beliefs in the street

Well I feal that is the wrong approach a sinner doesnt no he sins thats why he sins a better way would be would you luike to go to heaven I have a friend that can arrange it I feal thats whhat God has to say at any rate . However most of the time when I bible bash I dont tell ppl Im a christian I just scoialise meet ppl get to no them and then invite them to church .... Its better that way ....

[Knightman]

I do not attend a church on any type of regular basis short of singing in a few choirs of various denomiations to help out when they need another tenor. In that minor capacity I have to say that I have never been set upon by anyone to become a regular member of any chuch community or been preached to, other than over the coarse of the service. For the most part people are very pleasant and courteous.
It is actually interesting how similar the various churches are when you take it all in from a (peek in the door) perspective....