Disgusting Religious Practice

[DRMIZER]

Most of us are generally aware of the absurdities of the various "revealed" religions. Claims that Moses parted the Red Sea, or that Jesus did a little soft-shoe on water are ridiculous far-fetched claims. The Bible, which is "holy" to all three of the major revealed religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, also contains some vile disgusting content. For example, the idea God would tell Abraham to murder his son to prove his love of God is disgusting. Or, that God told the Jews they should circumcise themselves and their eight day old sons as, "a token of the covenant betwixt me and you." (Genesis 17:10-11) This is not natural or normal.

The unnatural act of circumcision has recently made the headlines in Jewish publications. It seems rabbis routinely use their mouth to suck the blood from the infant's circumcised penis! This is truly DISGUSTING! How can any thinking person approve of barbaric and unnatural superstition such as this??? And to pretend the Creator ordered it!

According to the Jewish publication Haaretz, recently a rabbi infected with herpes transmitted his herpes to a baby he sucked the blood from. The baby died from the herpes the rabbi gave him. Now, instead of admitting the practice of circumcision is harmful and unnatural, and, in particular, the sucking of the infant's circumcised bloody penis only demonstrates a depraved mind and a very sick religion, the Orthodox rabbinical group, the Rabbinical Council of America, is suggesting rabbis use a tube to suck the blood from the victim's penis!

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/547874.html

How can disgusting superstitions such as this be tolerated by a reasonable society? It's time for thinking people to abolish superstition, especially when it involves child molesting and torture! How can we claim we believe in and love the Creator when things like this, that are done in the name of God, are a every day occurrence?

[JoeR]

As a token of our covenant, cut your penises! That really doesn't compute.

[Fei Hu]

As a token of our covenant, cut your penises! That really doesn't compute.

If God wanted everyone circumsized whay dodn't he just make us that way. Would have saved a lot of blood, seat and toil. Sometimes i wonder if God has his head screwed in tight.

[dhirschp]

I am totally against the idea of circumscion. That's what happened to me as a kid and they botched it. I had to get surgery to fix it, so I know from firsthand expierence about why it is bad, and I have Jewish blood in me, so don't call me an anti-Semite. Also female cirmuscion is much worse than it is for male, and it is very barbaric.

[JoeR]

The term Female Genital Mutilation is generally the preferred term, and the more appropriate one in my humble opinion.

I'm kinda disappointed that I was cut, since sex is supposed to be more pleasurable if you arent.

[Craig]

I would caution people here that circumcision can be important for medical reasons. While the vast majority of circumcisions are not preformed for this reason, it is still a mistake to view that they are inherently "wrong".

[Dangerrmouse]

How about "The vast majority of circumcisions not performed for supposed medical reasons (however spurious) are inherently wrong."

[Xerxes]

Most of us are generally aware of the absurdities of the various "revealed" religions. Claims that Moses parted the Red Sea, or that Jesus did a little soft-shoe on water are ridiculous far-fetched claims. The Bible, which is "holy" to all three of the major revealed religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, also contains some vile disgusting content. For example, the idea God would tell Abraham to murder his son to prove his love of God is disgusting. Or, that God told the Jews they should circumcise themselves and their eight day old sons as, "a token of the covenant betwixt me and you." (Genesis 17:10-11) This is not natural or normal.

The unnatural act of circumcision has recently made the headlines in Jewish publications. It seems rabbis routinely use their mouth to suck the blood from the infant's circumcised penis! This is truly DISGUSTING! How can any thinking person approve of barbaric and unnatural superstition such as this??? And to pretend the Creator ordered it!

According to the Jewish publication Haaretz, recently a rabbi infected with herpes transmitted his herpes to a baby he sucked the blood from. The baby died from the herpes the rabbi gave him. Now, instead of admitting the practice of circumcision is harmful and unnatural, and, in particular, the sucking of the infant's circumcised bloody penis only demonstrates a depraved mind and a very sick religion, the Orthodox rabbinical group, the Rabbinical Council of America, is suggesting rabbis use a tube to suck the blood from the victim's penis!

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/547874.html

How can disgusting superstitions such as this be tolerated by a reasonable society? It's time for thinking people to abolish superstition, especially when it involves child molesting and torture! How can we claim we believe in and love the Creator when things like this, that are done in the name of God, are a every day occurrence?


Join the League of Satan, brotha :devil:

[bowerbird]

I would caution people here that circumcision can be important for medical reasons. While the vast majority of circumcisions are not preformed for this reason, it is still a mistake to view that they are inherently "wrong".

Craig is right. I once nursed a father and son pair. The son had to be circumcised because of a very tight foreskin (Sorry I have forgotten the medical name for this condition) that interferred with urination. He was scared so poor Dad volunteered to um "share the experience" and be circumcised at the same time.

Greater love hath no man

[Strel]

There are tangible medical benefits to circumcision.

There are subjective opinions about appearance, one way or the other.
There are subjective opinions about the sexual effects of circumcision. (What is "more pleasurable" - compared to what? How does psychology play into it?)

The long and short of it (no pun intended) is that circumcision is no big deal. It's a matter of personal preference or religious practice, as it may apply.

I have to wonder a bit about people that worry too much, as Janis Joplin put it, about a "little piece of wang."

[alfred]

Lets get back to the original posting.

Are you telling me that all Rabbi's ritually suck the penis of baby boys !!!!!!!

Is this true?

I happened across this posting whilst browsing the usual crackpot religious sites to indulge my cynical indignation.

But this realy takes the biscuit. I'm seriously appauled if it's true.

Somebody tell me it's not true.

Please.

[Antipathy]

It seems rabbis routinely use their mouth to suck the blood from the infant's circumcised penis! This is truly DISGUSTING! How can any thinking person approve of barbaric and unnatural superstition such as this??? And to pretend the Creator ordered it!
I didn't know this about the circumcision ritual. In fact, I found it a bit hard to believe, I thought perhaps it was an isolated extreme case, so I did a bit of Googling around... and shockingly, it's true!

Snip.

[i]" The Talmud describes the process of removing the baby boy’s foreskin in three steps: The foreskin is cut, the mucous layer underneath is removed with a flick of the mohel’s fingernail and then the blood is removed through oral suction. "

http://www.jewishreview.org/bris.htm

DRMIZER: I am truly shocked by this revelation. I can hardly understand how such an obviously paedophilic practise could have been tolerated by a community at large, at any time in history. But for it to have persisted for so long, and to still be allowed in these (so called) enlightened times, is simply unbelievable.

I completely agree with your assesment that it is disgusting. Once again, religion and religious practises have a lot to answer for. :rolleyes:

[DRMIZER]

Ant - Sad, very sad but true. I'm glad you took the time to do the research and acknowledge such grotesque rituals. "religion and religious practises have a lot to answer for." Yes they do!

[Democritus]

I would caution people here that circumcision can be important for medical reasons. While the vast majority of circumcisions are not preformed for this reason, it is still a mistake to view that they are inherently "wrong".

Actually that's a myth. Except in rare cases where there is a problem with the foreskin being too tight, there are no medical benefits from circumcision. At least that's what my parents were told by my doctor when I was born.

[historyteach]

There is a small sect of Jews, Ultra Orthodox, (sorry, I forget the name for them...), who perform circumcision this way. Today, although mohels are used frequently, it is the fringe group who participates in this action.
Pedophelia? Hardly. It was the Jews who took a stand against sexual relations within the family, at a time when such practices were the norm.
I have not done much research on this practice. However, I know for a fact that it is a small contingent. Each religion has its fringe group. Those who take things to extreme. That is a shame, in EVERY group. But, it is a fact.
Just setting the record straight; it is NOT the norm in a ritual circumcision.
Shalom!

[Antipathy]

There is a small sect of Jews, Ultra Orthodox, (sorry, I forget the name for them...), who perform circumcision this way. Today, although mohels are used frequently, it is the fringe group who participates in this action.
Pedophelia? Hardly. It was the Jews who took a stand against sexual relations within the family, at a time when such practices were the norm.
I have not done much research on this practice. However, I know for a fact that it is a small contingent. Each religion has its fringe group. Those who take things to extreme. That is a shame, in EVERY group. But, it is a fact.

Just setting the record straight; it is NOT the norm in a ritual circumcision.
Shalom!The fact that it is still practised and tolerated at all is nonetheless very disturbing. You say it’s hardly paedophilia, yet you offer no other explanation for its origin. Do you think that this method of removing the blood, following a surgical procedure, was an edict from God? Maybe it was initiated by a sect of rabbi vampires!

I mean really… men sucking blood from the sexual organ of a new born baby! It’s depraved behaviour in any age. And it’s still going on! You can deny the connection with paedophilia all you want, but you’ll have a hard time convincing me that the inspiration for its origin wasn’t driven by men of that persuasion. Neither will you easily convince me that at least some of the men who have continued with this practise, throughout the ages, weren’t also of that persuasion.

[JoeR]

rabbi vampires :lol:

[historyteach]

My dear, I have no need to convince you or anyone...
Just stating the facts.
Shalom!

[Democritus]

The fact that it is still practised and tolerated at all is nonetheless very disturbing. You say it’s hardly paedophilia, yet you offer no other explanation for its origin. Do you think that this method of removing the blood, following a surgical procedure, was an edict from God? Maybe it was initiated by a sect of rabbi vampires!

I mean really… men sucking blood from the sexual organ of a new born baby! It’s depraved behaviour in any age. And it’s still going on! You can deny the connection with paedophilia all you want, but you’ll have a hard time convincing me that the inspiration for its origin wasn’t driven by men of that persuasion. Neither will you easily convince me that at least some of the men who have continued with this practise, throughout the ages, weren’t also of that persuasion.

Actually, from an objective point of view, it was probably the most effective way to remove the blood at the time. Surgeons regularly use suction tubes in surgery, this would be the non-technological equivalent. At this point it's become dogma for those who believe that way.

[el nopal]

I do not see why circumcision, or any religious practice should be judged as disgusting or otherwise.

If you perceive it as an individual through a personal judgement, then there is something wrong. The practice is just that, a practice accepted by a group of people, who are different from other groups of people.

Judging the practice is disgusting.

In regards to female circumcision, who is anyone to disagree with this practice when it is performed by women, on other women to ensure a culturally determined marriage."

Outsiders may view the practice as disgusting, but the only important factor lies in the practitioners and individuals who practice it themselves.