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GI Joe
06-26-2005, 11:42 PM
A court in Jerusalem has given the go ahead for the city’s annual Gay Pride march to take place this week.

The court ruled that the municipal council "did not have the right to discriminate against a section of the population because of sexual orientation."

The court also ordered the municipality to pay legal costs of more than $7,800.

Israeli Interior Minister, Ofir Pines, had ordered the municipal council to allow the fourth Gay Pride march to take place in Jerusalem on Thursday.

The municipality had expressed opposition to the parade in a letter to
organisers, warning it would be "a provocation and upset the sentiments of the wider public who live in or are visiting the city."


Despite antipathy for gays among Israeli religious circles, homosexuality was legalised in the Jewish state in 1988 and since then, the rights of gay couples have been recognised by the courts.


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I would like to see a gay march in the palestinian areas or in some other Arab country. Boy that would be a bloodbath.

jamesrage
06-27-2005, 01:15 AM
The desicration of the holy lands goes on.<MOD EDIT>

JoeR
06-27-2005, 01:36 AM
The violence going on there does more to desecrate the holy land than a gay pride march would ever do.

Of course, nothing holy about it to me.

kerby4u
06-27-2005, 04:57 AM
"Christopher Street Day Parade" just took place here in Berlin, Germany...obviously, this a gay street parade and festival. Now, I am very open minded and have no problem with other people's private lives, sexual orientation, rights to gay couples, etc. However, it is a bit illogical...I dont rally with others and have a hetrosexual day parade...i dont see the point in having a festival that surrounds "a personal lifestyle" or whom and how i have a love life...it seems that at times many gays project themselves as an elite "club" and hetro's are left to the mundane. that is my personal view. Hell, if they want a parade...fine....just be sure not to leave your emtpy bear bottles, trash and torn lingeré everywhere in my city's streets.

I think the municipality should pay the penalty and wear the egg for such backward thinking...as well as individuals that deem they should have a anti-gay voice on this subject...it really is no one's concern but theirs.

Riddley
06-27-2005, 06:33 AM
Now if the fact that gay people are marching is desecrating the Holy land then if they were stopped from marching then would the desecration stop? If the gayness is the desecration factor then their marching is immaterial and the only way to halt the desecration would be to get rid of the gays. Guess who tried that?
Then, of course, we could all be grown-ups and say "as long as you don't hurt anyone or scare the horses you can do what you like in your love life."
Jerusalem is doing the right thing in allowing freedom of expression and it is true that such marches elsewhere would end in violence. But not just Arab countries.There are some towns in my so-called civilised country where being openly gay would be hazardous.

Soc.Dem.
06-27-2005, 06:52 AM
The desicration of the holy lands goes on.<MOD EDIT>

You really hate freedom of speech, don't you?

Soc.Dem.
06-27-2005, 07:01 AM
" However, it is a bit illogical...I dont rally with others and have a hetrosexual day parade...i dont see the point in having a festival that surrounds "a personal lifestyle" or whom and how i have a love life...it seems that at times many gays project themselves as an elite "club" and hetro's are left to the mundane.


You don't feel the need to have parade because you are part of the majority.

You don't feel a need to "come out of the closet", because you have never needed to be in the "closet".

You don't need to show the world that you're proud to be whoever you are, because you have never been made to feel ashamed just because of who you are.

You have never been told that the love you feel is dirty, sinful or that it doesn't really excist, that it's not love, but a perversion.

And you don't realise that the whole society celebrates the "personal lifestyle" and love life of heterosexual every single day through movies, magasines, music and more.

Ed Sane
06-27-2005, 07:01 AM
Now, I am very open minded and have no problem with other people's private lives, sexual orientation, rights to gay couples, etc. However, it is a bit illogical...I dont rally with others and have a hetrosexual day parade

Heterosexuals arnt repressed in society at large either...What was the point of Civil rights marchs? To bring awareness to a problem. If they had to have a court fight over a gay pride parade, then clearly they need to have one because some people arnt finding acceptable for them, and want to legislate morality...And as a heterosexual I would have no problem marching in a gay pride parade, the one in Seattle didnt feel very elitist towards just gays...Heck they can be fun to watch..

kerby4u
06-27-2005, 08:14 AM
ok....the two former post make their point...if indeed the march to celebrate contemporary understanding and tolerance...by all means, march. BTW, the "christopher st day" is one of the better street festivals in berlin (and they are many...)...even the homophobes recognize it as a good time....my favourite part is the drag race, and no, there are no automobiles involved.

Democritus
06-27-2005, 10:18 AM
The desicration of the holy lands goes on.<MOD EDIT>
Since Israel recognizes gay rights to the point of limited marriage rights, why would this be a desecration?

Soc.Dem.
06-28-2005, 07:10 AM
The desicration of the holy lands goes on.<MOD EDIT>

From a Jewish point of view, a procession of idol-worshipping Christians in Jerusalem could also be seen as a desecration of the holy land.

The_Comedian
06-28-2005, 07:21 AM
I would like to see a gay march in the palestinian areas or in some other Arab country. Boy that would be a bloodbath.
Why don´t you just write "intolerant Muslims" then?

Probably such a march wouldn´t be possible in many Muslim countries, so what, it is a completely different culture.
Much more worrying should be that this march couldn´t have been held in some parts of the Western world, too.

jamesrage
06-28-2005, 02:04 PM
Since Israel recognizes gay rights to the point of limited marriage rights, why would this be a desecration?

What is that you all try to tell me?Two wrongs do not make a right?The Israeli government just like ours is infested with liberals.

Democritus
06-28-2005, 02:16 PM
What is that you all try to tell me?Two wrongs do not make a right?The Israeli government just ours is infested with liberals.

Elected officials who I can only assume are pleasing their constituents, otherwise they would have been replaced.

ZXL
06-28-2005, 10:26 PM
What is that you all try to tell me?Two wrongs do not make a right?The Israeli government just like ours is infested with liberals.

:rolleyes: Did gays slaughter you family after raping your wife and sodomizing your animals then steal your house? They are just people who don't do anything wrong to you at all. At least no more than any heterosexual so what's the big deal?

eugene40
06-29-2005, 12:13 AM
What is that you all try to tell me?Two wrongs do not make a right?The Israeli government just like ours is infested with liberals.


Liberals that build walls and bomb the heck out of people.... Oh yea,, there is a stand up argument... Really,, liberals,, you are going to go with that.....

JoeR
06-29-2005, 03:39 AM
What is that you all try to tell me?Two wrongs do not make a right?The Israeli government just like ours is infested with liberals.

I can't imagine a country ran by people that you would approve of

Democritus
06-30-2005, 02:42 AM
I can't imagine a country ran by people that you would approve of

I can think of a few... but somehow I think I'd get warned for a personal attack if I listed them.