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GI Joe
07-18-2005, 08:58 PM
Irshad Manji has already been dubbed ‘Osama’s worst nightmare’ for her criticisms of Islam. Now she wants Britain’s Muslims to stand more firmly on the side of freedom
No wonder Irshad Manji has received death threats since appearing on British television: she is a lipstick lesbian, a Muslim and scourge of Islamic leaders, whom she accuses of making excuses about the terror attacks on London. Oh, and she tells ordinary Muslims to “crawl out of their narcissistic shell”. Ouch.

Manji is a glamorous Canadian television presenter whose book, The Trouble with Islam, has made her so famous in America that she won something called the Oprah Winfrey Chutzpah award. Even at a conference in Oxford last week she felt unsafe — despite extra security — with police sifting through “disgusting e-mails” and threats after her appearance on Newsnight.

Doesn’t the violent Muslim minority show Islam is flawed? “I ask myself the same question,” she grimaces. Far from regarding Muslims as oppressed they have a “supremacy complex — and that’s dangerous”. This, she contends, is true even among moderates. “Literalists” who consider the Koran the “perfect manifesto of God” have taken over the mainstream; and far from misreading Islam, as Tony Blair and the Muslim Council of Britain insist, terrorists can find encouragement for murder in the Koran.

The underlying problem with Islam, observes Manji, is that far from spiritualising Arabia, it has been infected with the reactionary prejudices of the Middle East: “Colonialism is not the preserve of people with pink skin. What about Islamic imperialism? Eighty per cent of Muslims live outside the Arab world yet all Muslims must bow to Mecca.” Fresh thinking, she contends, is suppressed by ignorant imams; you can see why she has been dubbed “Osama’s worst nightmare ”.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-1696968_1,00.html

Heads_On_Pikes
07-18-2005, 09:42 PM
I bet she has a difficult time obtaining life insurance.

Very interesting article.

GI Joe
07-18-2005, 09:44 PM
I have seen her on TV before.


Here is her pic
http://www.harrywalker.com/speakers_pitch.cfm?Spea_ID=702

You can also view some video of her on the harry walker site

Chidi
07-19-2005, 01:00 PM
Far from regarding Muslims as oppressed they have a “supremacy complex — and that’s dangerous”. This, she contends, is true even among moderates. “Literalists” who consider the Koran the “perfect manifesto of God” have taken over the mainstream


Please.......
Ask any Christian and they will speak of their Glorious and wonderous GOD THAT IS ALLMIGHTY AND ALL POWERFUL AND THAT HE IS THE ONE TRUE GOD.

If that isn't a supremacy complex I dont know what is.

GI Joe
07-19-2005, 01:08 PM
Please.......
Ask any Christian and they will speak of their Glorious and wonderous GOD THAT IS ALLMIGHTY AND ALL POWERFUL AND THAT HE IS THE ONE TRUE GOD.

If that isn't a supremacy complex I dont know what is.


That is a fallacious argument. so does that mean muslims dont have a supremacy complex and since you brought the subject up how many Christians are out doing suicide bombings these days.

Chidi
07-19-2005, 01:24 PM
What do you think this war in Iraq was about? A large Chritsian community wage war on a Large Muslim community. They use suicide bombers you use high tech weaponry to blow up thei young and old population indiscriminately.

Chidi
07-19-2005, 01:24 PM
Both as bad as each other in my humble opinion.

jamesrage
07-19-2005, 03:42 PM
What do you think this war in Iraq was about? A large Chritsian community wage war on a Large Muslim community. They use suicide bombers you use high tech weaponry to blow up thei young and old population indiscriminately.

You make it sound as though the government has some plan to rid the world of muslims.Do you have any sources that this is a religious war?

Goupillon
07-25-2005, 07:42 AM
You make it sound as though the government has some plan to rid the world of muslims.Do you have any sources that this is a religious war?

"Tonight, I ask for your prayers for all those who grieve, for the children whose worlds have been shattered, for all whose sense of safety and security has been threatened. And I pray they will be comforted by a power greater than any of us, spoken through the ages in Psalm 23: "Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me."

President George W. Bush September 11

"Americans are a free people, who know that freedom is the right of every person and the future of every nation. The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity"

STATE OF THE UNION January 28th 2003

..If liberty is god's gift to humanity, who the hell does bush think he is trying to impose the American notion of liberty on people. What a megalomaniac.

"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."

George W Bush: Reuters Sept 21th 2001

rjamortega
07-26-2005, 04:39 PM
What do you think this war in Iraq was about? A large Chritsian community wage war on a Large Muslim community. They use suicide bombers you use high tech weaponry to blow up thei young and old population indiscriminately.
That's a stretch there Chidi. Show us the christians who are murdering and threatening the lives of those like yourself who speak out against Christianity. There are multitudes of celebrities and authors who rudely criticize christians. There is no retalliation as seen from Islam's radicals.

rjamortega
07-26-2005, 04:42 PM
When did this woman begin her public argument against Islam? A week ago?!!?
Cuz I doubt she's got much time left if she likes making public appearences.

Goupillon
07-26-2005, 07:53 PM
sounds like Bush thinks its a religious war. Its a pity that hatred and war are a couple of the very few concepts he can grasp.

Ed Sane
07-26-2005, 08:14 PM
Wasnt she on an episode of Real Time with Bill Mahr?


She has a real forceful personality.

The_Penguin
07-28-2005, 12:41 AM
Doesn’t the violent Muslim minority show Islam is flawed? “I ask myself the same question,” she grimaces. Far from regarding Muslims as oppressed they have a “supremacy complex — and that’s dangerous”. This, she contends, is true even among moderates. “Literalists” who consider the Koran the “perfect manifesto of God” have taken over the mainstream; and far from misreading Islam, as Tony Blair and the Muslim Council of Britain insist, terrorists can find encouragement for murder in the Koran.
MM was right.
The underlying problem with Islam, observes Manji, is that far from spiritualising Arabia, it has been infected with the reactionary prejudices of the Middle East: “Colonialism is not the preserve of people with pink skin. What about Islamic imperialism? Eighty per cent of Muslims live outside the Arab world yet all Muslims must bow to Mecca.” Fresh thinking, she contends, is suppressed by ignorant imams; you can see why she has been dubbed “Osama’s worst nightmare ”.
That's pretty scary. They view their alleigence primarily to Mecca, not their nation states. The likes of Goebbels would have killed for a support base like that.

el nopal
07-28-2005, 03:56 AM
She has looks, personality, and intelligence. What's not to like?

The_Penguin
07-28-2005, 10:40 AM
She has looks, personality, and intelligence. What's not to like?
The fact that she dares to say that the imams that preech hate and death to those who oppose islam are no different from SS officers of the third reich.

el nopal
07-29-2005, 02:09 AM
The fact that she dares to say that the imams that preech hate and death to those who oppose islam are no different from SS officers of the third reich.

I think she has a point.
I do not see Imams carrying out missions....