The Cross still Reigns over San Diego

[jamesrage]

Here is one of those events where the scum have lost their long battle to tear down the 43 foot concrete Mt. Soledad Cross.

http://www.thomasmore.org/news.html?NewsID=341

ANN ARBOR, MI. -- Despite fifteen years of adverse court rulings, city council decisions to remove the cross, a local war memorial associations agreement to settle the case by removing the cross, and last week’s surprise decision by a state judge requiring a two-thirds vote of the people before the city would be forced to donate the cross and memorial to the federal government as a national war memorial, the citizens of San Diego spoke loud and clear- - keep the cross where it is as it is. With 100 percent of the precincts reporting, unofficial results show that over 75 percent of the voters voted to keep the cross and war memorial in yesterdays voting.

The 43 foot concrete Mt. Soledad Cross has been the center of a war memorial on city land since 1954. However, in 1989, an atheist filed a federal lawsuit challenging its constitutionality because it was located on public property.

The Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, played an instrumental role in saving the cross. Its legal analysis was the basis for a federal law that declared the cross and memorial as a National War Memorial and authorized the federal government to receive a donation of the land on which the cross and memorial stood.

The citizens in San Diego took a stand against the scum who wanted to tear down part of their memorial and voted to prevent this cross from being torn down.

[serenity]

"Scum"?

:)


Evil scum, war against God....:)


I dunno, man.

[jamesrage]

"Scum"?




Evil scum, war against God....


I dunno, man.

What else would you call people who have spent 15 years or so trying to tear down a cross on a war memorial?

[::Major_Baker::]

What else would you call people who have spent 15 years or so trying to tear down a cross on a war memorial?
people with too much time on their hands?

[towski]

people with too much time on their hands?


SCUMMY people with too much time on their hands.

It's all about packaging. ;)

[Churlant]

How can anyone have a war against God when God is dead? :confused:

-JC

[::Major_Baker::]

How can anyone have a war against God when God is dead? :confused:

-JC
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
You shall not speak that way in my presence. Oh wait, I'm not really physically here, or there I guess. I'm here in spirit though. I think.
I am here, and you are there.

God can'r be dead if he is a sirit. But wwwwait, can a spirit be alive?

[Churlant]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
You shall not speak that way in my presence. Oh wait, I'm not really physically here, or there I guess. I'm here in spirit though. I think.
I am here, and you are there.

God can'r be dead if he is a sirit. But wwwwait, can a spirit be alive?

God is dead. I, as Lord of the Scumbags, have killed Him. Interestingly enough, God ends up with a physical body once dead - kind of looks like Fred Phelps, if you can imagine... a deader version, anyway.

So I'm afraid there is no God. He's dead and I buried him under my septic tank. I tried to find an outhouse, but you'd be surprised how many of those there aren't these days.

-JC

[jamesrage]

people with too much time on their hands?

Well that too.

[Soc.Dem.]

The scum in San Diego have lost their war against God.


:lol: :lol: :rofl: :laughter: :rofl: :lol: :jester:

[Dangerrmouse]

I thought they were in Ann Arbor, Michigan?

[Dangerrmouse]

I thought they were in Ann Arbor, Michigan? Or were they different scum?

[jamesrage]

How can anyone have a war against God when God is dead?

Apparently these scum do not beleave God is dead.They have for almost 15 years to tear it down,they have turned down every proposal that would give the
land the cross sits on to a non-government entity.So by that alone their grudge is not with seperation of church and state issue,their grudge is against God.

If you don't beleave in God so why waste your time over a symbol that you view as meaningless?If you view it as a seperation of church and state why not sell or give the land to a non-government entity.

[Nuke the Oil]

What else would you call people who have spent 15 years or so trying to tear down a cross on a war memorial?

Tasteful. :D :devil:

[eugene40]

people with too much time on their hands?


Ummmmm Atheist with a political agenda? maybe?

[soundcrd]

More scum, huh, james? So that's what, 1,936 different types of scum now? O, make that 1937, I feel the deisgnation coming upon me. Or maybe that's already happened...

[JoeR]

Is this the big cross that was in Dirty Harry?

[mtlhdtodd]

Is this the big cross that was in Dirty Harry?


Nope. The one in Dirty Harry WAS in San Francisco but I think the ACLU got that one.

[spork]

Tasteful. :D :devil:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[dittohead not!]

Does Satin believe in God? If not, then who is he fighting against? If so, then he doesn't fit Scummy's definition of "scum," so he is on Scummy's side. Therefore, Scummy is a Satinist! Who would have thought it? :eek:

[jamesrage]

Does Satin believe in God? If not, then who is he fighting against? If so, then he doesn't fit Scummy's definition of "scum," so he is on Scummy's side. Therefore, Scummy is a Satinist! Who would have thought it?


Satin does beleave in God and Jesus.That is why just simply beleaving is not enough as some fake christians would lead others to beleave.

[Dangerrmouse]

Nobody is asking for it to be taken down, just moved off state land, as required by the State's constitution. As the atheist said:

"Jihad Jesus Republicans need to understand that the separation of church and state has kept this country from getting into religious wars," Paulson said. " ... If God was powerful, there would not be a need for the government to go in and force a religious agenda on nonbelieving citizens."

[jamesrage]

Nobody is asking for it to be taken down, just moved off state land, as required by the State's constitution. As the atheist said:

Thats double speak for we can't stand the site of the cross and we want it removed.


I know not all athiest feel as though as though a cross on a veterans war memorial is the samething as some bible thumper in their face trying to shove the bible down their thoat and sprinkling holy water on them saying demon be gone.I find it hard to beleave that the two thirds of voters in San Diego are all christians.California after is liberal to the core.

[spork]

California is hardly liberal to the core - look at the fascist they voted in as governator.

One thing is for sure, that's a really ugly war memorial. Surely our veterans deserve something more tasteful than a brick beehive with a cross stuck on top.

Of course making any suggestions to Christians means they'll start making the persecution accusation. Evangelical Christians are thin skinned crybabies.

[superskippy]

California is hardly liberal to the core - look at the fascist they voted in as governator.


GO GUVERNATOR!!!! :D :D :D RE-ELECT :lol: :lol: :lol:

[jamesrage]

California is hardly liberal to the core - look at the fascist they voted in as governator.


They voted in Arnold as govener because the last governor wanted to give illegals drivers licenes.Most liberals and most conservatives want border control.
Besides look at who the senators are.Senator Dianne Feinstein and Senator Barbara Boxer and 32 demoncat represenaatives.

[dittohead not!]

They voted in Arnold as govener because the last governor wanted to give illegals drivers licenes.Most liberals and most conservatives want border control.
Besides look at who the senators are.Senator Dianne Feinstein and Senator Barbara Boxer and 32 demoncat represenaatives.

We (that is to say, my fellow Californians, since I voted for McClintock) voted to remove Grey Davis and elect Herr Gropenfuhrer so that we would have a balanced budget. We almost do, not quite, but we're coming a lot closer than before and much, much closer than the federal government is to balancing their budget.

Most liberals and most conservatives do want border control, as do we middle of the roaders. Too bad the feds aren't into following the will of the electorate.

BTW, Satin does too believe in God. Who does he think threw him out of Heaven?

[spork]

BTW, Satin does too believe in God. Who does he think threw him out of Heaven?

Velvet, or organza? :lol:

[Jarlaxle]

Jihad Jesus Republicansneed to understand that the separation of church and state has kept this country from getting into religious wars," Paulson said. " ... If God was powerful, there would not be a need for the government to go in and force a religious agenda on nonbelieving citizens

Best. Line. Ever. With some editing, I think I have a new signature.

My signature on another board: "A cult is a religion that doesn't have good PR people."

[lord tammerlain]

Does Satin believe in God? If not, then who is he fighting against? If so, then he doesn't fit Scummy's definition of "scum," so he is on Scummy's side. Therefore, Scummy is a Satinist! Who would have thought it? :eek:


Just who is Satin, I know who Satan is but not Satin

[jamesrage]

Just who is Satin, I know who Satan is but not Satin

OH CRAP the grammar police busted us,I KNOW MY RIGHTS! I KNOW MY RIGHTS! I WANT A LAWER!I PLEAD THE 5TH!
QUICK! SOMEBODY GET A CAMERA THE GRAMMER POLICE IS USING ROUGH FORCE WITH ME!

[lord tammerlain]

OH CRAP the grammar police busted us,I KNOW MY RIGHTS! I KNOW MY RIGHTS! I WANT A LAWER!I PLEAD THE 5TH!
QUICK! SOMEBODY GET A CAMERA THE GRAMMER POLICE IS USING ROUGH FORCE WITH ME! :D

Spelling police :D

But I asked because I was wondering if it was a US christian thing not to actually say or type out Satan

[jamesrage]

But I asked because I was wondering if it was a US christian thing not to actually say or type out Satan

Mistakes in spelling do occur accidently.Sometimes it is a matter of fat fingering the buttons on the keybourd and rushing off to another thread.

[Churlant]

If you don't beleave in God so why waste your time over a symbol that you view as meaningless?If you view it as a seperation of church and state why not sell or give the land to a non-government entity.

They know God is dead and don't want to give others false hope. It would be like telling someone whose mother has been dead for years that she's still alive!

Or something like that. :lol:

-JC

[lord tammerlain]

Mistakes in spelling do occur accidently.Sometimes it is a matter of fat fingering the buttons on the keybourd and rushing off to another thread.


That I know it is just that dittohead not first typed out satin more then once and you made the same mistake, which is what caused me to wonder. If just one of you made the error I would not have though anything of it.

[jamesrage]

They know God is dead and don't want to give others false hope. It would be like telling someone whose mother has been dead for years that she's still alive!

How can they beleave in a dead god if they do not even beleave in a living god?

[Churlant]

How can they beleave in a dead god if they do not even beleave in a living god?

Well... if God is dead, you can't very well believe in a living God, now can you?

If what you mean is how can an atheist believe God is dead... well, who said they were atheists?

-JC

[jamesrage]

If what you mean is how can an atheist believe God is dead... well, who said they were atheists?

How can a athiest beleave in God,living or dead?

[Dangerrmouse]

"An atheist doesn't have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there can't be a god. He only has to be someone who believes that the evidence on the God question is at a similar level to the evidence on the werewolf question."
-John McCarthy

Says it all really. Atheists can discuss hypothetical gods.