View Full Version : The ACLU have lost their battle with the boyscouts.
jamesrage
08-01-2005, 01:41 AM
The scumbags in the ACLU have lost their battle agianst the boyscouts.Even the liberal politicians even voted on the side of the boyscouts.Has hell frozen over?
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid19165.asp
In a 98-0 vote, the Senate approved the provision as part of massive bill setting Defense Department policy for next year. Senate majority leader Bill Frist, a former Boy Scout who sponsored the Senate provision, said it is necessary to push back on a spate of lawsuits to limit Boy Scout activities on government property. The provision adopted Tuesday says Boy Scouts should be treated the same as other national youth organizations. Frist said that the provision "removes any doubt that federal agencies may welcome Scouts to hold meetings, go camping on federal property, or hold scouting events and public forums" on government property.
In 1999 the ACLU of Illinois filed a lawsuit claiming that the Pentagon's sponsorship of such Boy Scout activities violates the First Amendment. The ACLU argues that direct government sponsorship of the group amounts to discrimination. Civil liberties advocates have assailed the Boy Scouts organization because it bars openly gay leaders and compels members to swear an oath of duty to God.
I would like to take this moment and say "Ha Ha you scum in the ACLU have lost,even the liberals in the white house told you to piss off" Although I speculate the liberals in the whitehouse only voted in favor of the boy scouts
to not lose voters.
So the questions I would like answered and debated on this thread are the following
Do you support or not support the senate's decision and why?
What reasons do you think why the senate on both sides supported the Boy Scouts?
Do you support or not support the ACLU's vicious vandetta against the Boy Scouts and why?
green lantern
08-01-2005, 01:48 AM
:clap: :clap: :clap: the senate most definitely got this one right. good job
I'd say spending money on the Boy Scouts as part of a defense bill is kind of a waste of money when we've got wide open borders (not that anyone is going to fix it anyway), but it doesn't bother me.
The loyalty oath I can't remember being any more significant than the Under God part of the Pledge. The fire and the knives were much more important :D
jamesrage
08-01-2005, 02:05 AM
I'd say spending money on the Boy Scouts as part of a defense bill is kind of a waste of money when we've got wide open borders (not that anyone is going to fix it anyway), but it doesn't bother me.
I would have to say it is much better than dumping billions on other countries in the form of forign aid.
jamesrage
08-01-2005, 02:14 AM
Camping>Helping people?
America first.
Besides this is much cheaper.
::Major_Baker::
08-01-2005, 09:53 AM
the ACLU needs to leave bot scouts alone. Though it was founded on relgious values, it no longer is based around them--it's based around teaching kids handy things that they will use the rest of their lives.
Democritus
08-01-2005, 10:09 AM
the ACLU needs to leave bot scouts alone. Though it was founded on relgious values, it no longer is based around them--it's based around teaching kids handy things that they will use the rest of their lives.
Yes liked tying knots... and how to whittle... or maybe how to stand at attention...
That's all I remember doing in my short time as a boyscout...
::Major_Baker::
08-01-2005, 10:51 AM
Yes liked tying knots... and how to whittle... or maybe how to stand at attention...
That's all I remember doing in my short time as a boyscout...
You didn't get very far I guess. I learned how to build fires with minimum materials in adverse conditons, canoe, kayak, shoot guns, shoot bows, cook on a fire, how to make a shelter if lost in the woods, and more!
Call now for your free gift!
Fei Hu
08-01-2005, 12:12 PM
I would have to say it is much better than dumping billions on other countries in the form of forign aid.
Now there's something we can agree on.
towski
08-01-2005, 12:26 PM
Yes liked tying knots... and how to whittle... or maybe how to stand at attention...
That's all I remember doing in my short time as a boyscout...
You clearly didn't have the right kind of leaders.
Take the Boy Scout Law, for example:
A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Curteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent.
Or some of the badges that are Required to earn Eagle Scout:
Citizenship in the Community, Citizenship in the Nation, Citizenship in the World, Communications, Personal Management, Emergency Preparedness, Environmental Science, and Family Life.
Not exactly a laundry list of camping, whittling, or basket weaving, is it?
Dangerrmouse
08-01-2005, 12:35 PM
Government funded paramilitary groups...Whatever next, Contra's?
towski
08-01-2005, 12:36 PM
Government funded paramilitary groups...Whatever next, Contra's?
Paramilitary groups. Right. Do some research.
Democritus
08-01-2005, 02:25 PM
You clearly didn't have the right kind of leaders.
Take the Boy Scout Law, for example:
A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Curteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent.
Or some of the badges that are Required to earn Eagle Scout:
Citizenship in the Community, Citizenship in the Nation, Citizenship in the World, Communications, Personal Management, Emergency Preparedness, Environmental Science, and Family Life.
Not exactly a laundry list of camping, whittling, or basket weaving, is it?
i'll grant that my experience is probably the exception rather than the rule. I just have some left over bitterness because of my own bad experiences. When you're at the archery range, and the scoutmaster's son points a drawn bow at your head and everyone laughs, it kind of turns one off to the whole thing.
jamesrage
08-01-2005, 02:41 PM
You didn't get very far I guess. I learned how to build fires with minimum materials in adverse conditons, canoe, kayak, shoot guns, shoot bows, cook on a fire, how to make a shelter if lost in the woods, and more!
Call now for your free gift!
That stuff sounds fun.
towski
08-01-2005, 02:45 PM
i'll grant that my experience is probably the exception rather than the rule. I just have some left over bitterness because of my own bad experiences. When you're at the archery range, and the scoutmaster's son points a drawn bow at your head and everyone laughs, it kind of turns one off to the whole thing.
Yep, bad leadership.
It's a shame.
superskippy
08-01-2005, 03:54 PM
Government funded paramilitary groups...Whatever next, Contra's?
Yes because I remember the last time the Boy Scouts launched operations against the American People :rolleyes:
Run! Run! The Boy Scouts are coming and they know how to make a shelter out of natuaral materials in the woods!! :)
How did the Boy Scouts cut down the forest?
Whittle by whittle
towski
08-01-2005, 06:28 PM
How did the Boy Scouts cut down the forest?
Whittle by whittle
Oh man. Ouch.
i'll grant that my experience is probably the exception rather than the rule. I just have some left over bitterness because of my own bad experiences. When you're at the archery range, and the scoutmaster's son points a drawn bow at your head and everyone laughs, it kind of turns one off to the whole thing.
Kids can be too damn mean sometimes. Time to get over it now.
Camping>Helping people?
Camping>Helping people>YES.
The_Penguin
08-06-2005, 10:32 PM
Government funded paramilitary groups...Whatever next, Contra's?
Yes because I remember the last time the Boy Scouts launched operations against the American People :rolleyes:
Run! Run! The Boy Scouts are coming and they know how to make a shelter out of natuaral materials in the woods!! :)
Don't forget about the dangers of marshmallows and smores :) .
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