You don't like 'em gas prices? Be glad you're not in Norway.

[The_Penguin]

Or in europe in general.
Statoil, Shell and Esso have now raised their recommended gasoline prices to around NOK 11.30 per liter (USD 6.68 per gallon).

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http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1094136.ece

[mataj]

Nothing special for Europe. Around here (Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, ...) is about $4.3 per gallon, if I calculated everything correctly. It never was much less than $4.

[billygardener]

in the us, we need to tax the **** out gas (except for business purposed, ie truckers). it will give carmakers an incentive to stop designing gas guzzlers.

[Ophelia]

You don't like these gas prices, my fellow Americans? Better get ready -- soon they'll be here as well, judging by oil prices these days.

[dittohead not!]

in the us, we need to tax the **** out gas (except for business purposed, ie truckers). it will give carmakers an incentive to stop designing gas guzzlers.

We should have done so years ago rather than imposing "fleet average" MPG on the industry. If you want to discourage something, tax it.

[Dangerrmouse]

The current local price is 90p per litre, which converts to approx $6:00 per American gallon.

[billygardener]

adding more tax to the pirce of gas should, in THEORY, force OPEC to lower their price to us so they can maintain some of the original volume. if they dont, then they lose a ton of their oil business.

[dittohead not!]

adding more tax to the pirce of gas should, in THEORY, force OPEC to lower their price to us so they can maintain some of the original volume. if they dont, then they lose a ton of their oil business.

That wouldn't discourage gasoline usage, but at least the money would stay here instead of going to Saudi Arabia.

[billygardener]

you don;t think that john and jane doe and family are going to drive the same distance if gas cost, let's say $4 a gallon? do you think they will consider gas mileage in their next car purchase?

[Oliphaunt]

I'd love it if the US had higher gas prices. Due to the distances involved here mayeb not as high as Europes though.

[billygardener]

it's either a gas tax or minimum mpg standards for cars. without any of those we're screwed.

[dittohead not!]

you don;t think that john and jane doe and family are going to drive the same distance if gas cost, let's say $4 a gallon? do you think they will consider gas mileage in their next car purchase?

If John and Jane Doe already own a suburban and live 40 miles from work, then they'll just eat the cost for a while. Their next car will probably get better mileage, and they might move closer to work, but no one is going to trade in an expensive vehicle or move their residence immediately. It's just cheaper to pay the increased cost of gas. If gas prices continue to increase for a couple of years, then we're likeley to see gasoline usage gradually go down, but don't expect any major changes in the short run.

The other problem is that high gas prices don't just affect driving. Everything you buy is delivered by either truck or train or both, and that means a lot of diesel fuel. The last time I looked, the local price for diesel was $3.19 per gallon. Not only that, but the food we eat and the fiber that goes into clothes are the product of farming, which also uses a lot of fuel. Can you imagine what it costs to fill one of the big tractors, the ones with dual wheels as high as a man's head?

[Soc.Dem.]

And Norway is a petroleum exporting country! :D

[billygardener]

please read post number 3 dittoheadnot

[Sauniere]

Oil, and its usage, within the lifetimes of many of you younger folk here, will go the way of the dinosaurs and other organics of the Mesozoic who produced the stuff in the first place. That stuff has been in the ground for millions upon millions of years fermenting to the point where humans could eventually suck it out and stop the slaughter of whales.

Industries of the near future that will become increasingly important to the survival of the human race: recycling, alternative fuels and energy sources, and a sun block that will protect life from the harmful effects of ultraviolet radiation.

[eugene40]

Umm gas prices or no.... I would love to be in Norway again.... The women there are amazing..... screw the gas prices! :)

[dittohead not!]

please read post number 3 dittoheadnot

Yep. I read it:

in the us, we need to tax the **** out gas (except for business purposed, ie truckers). it will give carmakers an incentive to stop designing gas guzzlers.

Sounds like a good idea, but it should have been implemented around 1972, when gas was dirt cheap. Better too late than never, but I doubt that it will happen even now. Your point???

And Norway is a petroleum exporting country!


Now, that's food for thought.

[Sauniere]

Umm gas prices or no.... I would love to be in Norway again.... The women there are amazing..... screw the gas prices! :)

Ahhh, we can always count on a good hedonistic response from Eugene!

[eugene40]

Ahhh, we can always count on a good hedonistic response from Eugene!


Yes we can,,, and I could provide you with dozens upon dozens of hedonistic stories,, and at least 3 from Norway... but alass this is a PG forum....

[Sauniere]

Yes we can,,, and I could provide you with dozens upon dozens of hedonistic stories,, and at least 3 from Norway... but alass this is a PG forum....

Ahh, well, my only extend as far as Meixco, Guatemala, and most of the western U.S., Hawai'i and Alaska. So far, never crossed the pond.

[Mirror Lake 444]

Yes the price of gas really hurts. I see semi load after semi load of Hummers going by my place everyday from a near by manufacturing plant. For those that can afford it they could care less about the price of fuel. I've been told the sale of cadilacs did not falter during the depression.

[eugene40]

Ahh, well, my only extend as far as Meixco, Guatemala, and most of the western U.S., Hawai'i and Alaska. So far, never crossed the pond.



Ahhhh you don't know what you are missing.... I could tell you... but that would be just mean..... :D