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Senor Herberto
11-08-2005, 10:54 PM
what do you think america should do in the next five years? do you know what peak oil is? how do you feel about war in iraq and the numerous blunders and consequences of neo-conservatism? do you feel threatened by the corporate world? do you appreciate that environmental laws have been weakened?

are you satisfied with the answers to 9/11?

if you won $10 million what would you do with it?

do you believe in God?

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answer these and add more of your own questions.

Sauniere
11-08-2005, 11:25 PM
what do you think america should do in the next five years? do you know what peak oil is? how do you feel about war in iraq and the numerous blunders and consequences of neo-conservatism? do you feel threatened by the corporate world? do you appreciate that environmental laws have been weakened?

are you satisfied with the answers to 9/11?

if you won $10 million what would you do with it?

do you believe in God?

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answer these and add more of your own questions.

Geez, nosy aren't we?

We debate these questions every day on WS.

Am I happy with our response to 9/11? Hell No! When we invaded Iraq that was when I knew there was something seriously wrong with this administration.

Peak oil, yes, we're there, and production will decline from now on. What do we do, invest in other energy technology. Urge corporations to move away from gas/oil to other sources. Stop making it easier for the corporations to rape and pillage the environment for what will NEVER EVER be solutions for energy problems. Sign the Kyoto Protocol and again invest in alternative energy sources and enact higher emissions controls that this time includes carbon dioxide.

Get the hell out of Iraq. They don't want us there. If we stay another ten years, the same thing will happen when we eventually pull out. The country will decay into chaos, split along theocratic lines, where those with the strongest forces will eventually take over.

If I won 10 million, I'd invest just enough so I could retire and be a thorn in government's side for the rest of my life. The rest I would buy land to save habitat in perpetuity.

I believe in a higher force, I don't know why. Did that force start the Big Bang, no I really don't believe that. My higher being may be the Earth Spirit. We are destroying our only home. Overpopulating it, swarming all over it. There are too many people, global warming is getting worse, we can no longer feed ourselves. The planet is crying for help and all our administration does it make it possible to inflict greater damage. There is NO ONE in this administration who can see the BIG picture. Who can look 10, 20, 100 years down the road and try and figure out what we need to do now to prevent global catastrophe.

The "neo-conservatives" have done nothing, NOTHING, to improve the conditions of ONE thing since taking office, except for Bush's immediate supporters, the evangelical right, and corporations. The poor, women, civil liberties, world peace, children, prosperity...? What have they done? Not a Goddamn thing. Bush... Worst Ever! Bush hopes that in 50 years he will be viewed as the Truman of his times! Aahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!

Well, Senor, if nothing else, thanks for the opportunity to vent! :flowers:

meloakey
11-09-2005, 05:14 AM
what do you think america should do in the next five years?
Start focusing on more issues here in America and stop expanding the divide between the American people.

do you know what peak oil is?
Haven't research it enough to say I am an expert on it.

how do you feel about war in iraq and the numerous blunders and consequences of neo-conservatism?
I believe in the war because I believe Saddam was an evil man who used the US to his advantage and disrespected both the UN and his own people. I believe in freedom, that is what I have had all my life, you have it, the next person to speak on the subject has it, but yet if someone spoke his mind to Saddam, he was never seen again. Not only that, even though we have not found stock piles of weapons, almost each week soldiers are finding huge amounts of bombs, rocket launchers, ect. throughout the country. Although they are not defined as weapons of mass destruction, they sure do provide alot of destruction. And with the quantity that is in Iraq, they had to have been stored before the War and not gotten from outside Iraq.
I remember an Iraqi citizen who lives around Bagdad. He said thank you, not only to me, but to every American. He thanked Americans because he said he had the freedom to choose what he wanted to do, that before the invasion he didn't have it. Then I remember my cousin Steve who even after the death of his brother wanted to go back. He remembers the amount of people in Iraq who cheer for his presence, the woman he saved.
I am not going to say to a person who disagrees with me is unamerican. He or she is showing the right that was given to all Americans in the constitution. I just don't agree with him or her.

do you feel threatened by the corporate world?
I personally don't feel threatened because I have benefitted from the corporate world but I have seen what it does to small, family owned businesses and there should be a limit of how far things should go.

do you appreciate that environmental laws have been weakened?
I don't appreciate it because if we don't protect what we have we are going to lose it.

are you satisfied with the answers to 9/11?
No, because what comes out of the answers aren't answers.

if you won $10 million what would you do with it?
Buy a house for my father, a new car for my mother, have a college fund set up for my nieces and nephews, take a trip to Egypt, Greece and a few other places, save some, then give the rest to someone that needs it.

do you believe in God?
Yes

Does anyone know exactly what a President goes through, what he deals with, what is actually his fault?

Senor Herberto
11-10-2005, 12:48 AM
thank you so much for telling me this!

a president is responsible for a lot. especially the initiatives he or she proposes, and the ones that are epxetced to be made by him or her. many of our nation's neo-conservative moves have been made by bush and his cabinet. they seemed to choose not to respond to threats and warnings about 9/11, how to investigate 9/11, what they decided happened, how to respond and to whom. they made the luxury tax cuts, the social budget cuts. blah blah. how do these things affect our lives? ask. feel. read. live.


yes, saddam was a crapster. should we have attacked his people? we haven't fought *Saddam* yet, and we have him in custody, or one of his duplicates. His wife said the guy is not Saddam when she saw the person they captured.

we could have handled the Saddam situation differently. 'now we're fighting' is not a good way to begin it, and not a good reason to do it either.

eugene40
11-10-2005, 01:31 AM
[QUOTE]what do you think america should do in the next five years?
Vote in a moderate in 08 and try to repair the damage of Bush and company.

do you know what peak oil is?
Yup,,, which is why I am trying to turn my vehicles over to bio diesel.

how do you feel about war in iraq and the numerous blunders and consequences of neo-conservatism?
Bunch a crap, brought to you by wanto to be tough guys that would wet their pants if they actually had to do their own dirty work..

do you feel threatened by the corporate world?
Not really,,, corporations are merely run by people, people can be destroyed. be not afraid of merely a man.

do you appreciate that environmental laws have been weakened?

No, I like the outdoors and I like fresh air, and I really would like (if I have them) my children to appreciate it as well.


are you satisfied with the answers to 9/11?
No I think too many people were let off the hook that shouldn't have been I think people should have kept their heads so others wouldn't have exploited it for their own gain.

if you won $10 million what would you do with it?
spread 5 mil around to family and friends and take the rest and live abroad for the rest of my life.

do you believe in God?

NOt a christian god,,, the others,, ehh I don't know I am certainly not going to live my life by a standard of a ancient contradiction filled book though.

meloakey
11-10-2005, 02:25 AM
[QUOTE=Senor Herberto]

a president is responsible for a lot. especially the initiatives he or she proposes, and the ones that are epxetced to be made by him or her. many of our nation's neo-conservative moves have been made by bush and his cabinet. they seemed to choose not to respond to threats and warnings about 9/11, how to investigate 9/11, what they decided happened, how to respond and to whom. they made the luxury tax cuts, the social budget cuts. blah blah. how do these things affect our lives? ask. feel. read. live.

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As for 9/11, the Clinton administration also had the warnings that it was going to happen but warned no one. Bin Ladan warned for years that he was going to attack the US. I am not saying it gets Bush off the hook either. But I am saying that the warnings were sent to the FBI, Homeland security, everywhere else but the Presidents. If anyone should catch the blame it isn't either Clinton or Bush, but the people who refused to tell either of the administrations.

As for tax cuts and budget cuts, they have to be approved by Congress. That is why each Presidency hopes that when he gets into office Congress is controlled by the same political party as he is.

http://www.vote.com/vote/3084446/argument3085090.phtml?cat=6834323
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62851-2004Jul19.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-09-23-tax-cuts_x.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133369,00.html
http://www.evote.com/features/2001-01/bushtaxplan.asp
http://www.demaction.org/dia/organizations/ombwatch/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=1329

All tax cut plans must be sent to Congress to be approved. If they don't agree with it, then it doesn't happen. Bush may have the plan but Congress has the power. If you read each article it shows the same thing, Congress must approve of it.

Senor Herberto
11-10-2005, 02:51 AM
guy, that's a lie. the August 9, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing was titled 'Bin Laden Determined To Strike Targets Inside the US". do more research. We had a lot of very accurate information and the president actually commanded us to do nothing about it. Cheney sent fighters away from the northeast corridor to the Canadian Arctic, despite these warnings. If they had been around we might have been able to do something.

Eugene, your perception of the Bible should not come between you and God. If you think the Bible is wrong, Quest for Him.

eugene40
11-10-2005, 01:14 PM
Eugene, your perception of the Bible should not come between you and God. If you think the Bible is wrong, Quest for Him.


I say aetheism only to christianity for many reasons that have nothing to do with the bible. And for the rest,,,, I lean towards aetheism,,, but I am not totally ruling them out like I do with chrisitianity,,, hence the christian aetheist and agnostic for the rest. If God exists and wants a relationship I am sure he knows where to find me. I will not prostrate myself out for something I can not see.

heel31ok
11-10-2005, 01:46 PM
I say aetheism only to christianity for many reasons that have nothing to do with the bible. And for the rest,,,, I lean towards aetheism,,, but I am not totally ruling them out like I do with chrisitianity,,, hence the christian aetheist and agnostic for the rest. If God exists and wants a relationship I am sure he knows where to find me. I will not prostrate myself out for something I can not see.
so in general you do not seek happiness or fulfillment? these things cannot be seen.I think you will not prostrate yourself out to a god you think is unfair or whatever. Your beef is with god and not what is unseen.If you wrote a book and put stuff like that in it it would have no credibility because of the contradictions in it.

eugene40
11-10-2005, 01:52 PM
so in general you do not seek happiness or fulfillment? these things cannot be seen.I think you will not prostrate yourself out to a god you think is unfair or whatever. Your beef is with god and not what is unseen.If you wrote a book and put stuff like that in it it would have no credibility because of the contradictions in it.


I am generally happy and very fulfilled,, I don't lack anything that I would need A "god" to replace. And the unseen part is the whole entity of "God" I believe in unseen things all the time, Particles, gravity, so on and so forth. But a "god" no way I think it is lame and an adult version of an imaginary friend. But that is me,,, I have no beef with god because I don't view him as existing, especially in the christian sense. I think it is a bunch of crap. But that is me,,, And why would I write a whole book about it.... And you believe in the bible despite its contradictions and it is suppose to have credibility. as you so often state.... So because of its contradictions it has zero credibility.

heel31ok
11-10-2005, 02:17 PM
I am generally happy and very fulfilled,, I don't lack anything that I would need A "god" to replace. And the unseen part is the whole entity of "God" I believe in unseen things all the time, Particles, gravity, so on and so forth. But a "god" no way I think it is lame and an adult version of an imaginary friend. But that is me,,, I have no beef with god because I don't view him as existing, especially in the christian sense. I think it is a bunch of crap. But that is me,,, And why would I write a whole book about it.... And you believe in the bible despite its contradictions and it is suppose to have credibility. as you so often state.... So because of its contradictions it has zero credibility.
You said you would not prostrate yourself for anything unseen but then go on to reduce it to god. That is a contradiction because of the word"anyhting''.That is all I said . You go on to say you have no beef with god . I see a major beef if you consider the subject a load of of crap. That sounds like a beef to me. i have never stated because of its contradictions it is supposed to have credibility.
The point is that you contradict yourself yet hold self to a different standard. The reason you do is because you know what you said and what you meant and that it in fact is no contradiction at all. That is all I meant.

meloakey
11-10-2005, 05:45 PM
[QUOTE=Senor Herberto]guy, that's a lie. the August 9, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing was titled 'Bin Laden Determined To Strike Targets Inside the US". do more research. We had a lot of very accurate information and the president actually commanded us to do nothing about it. Cheney sent fighters away from the northeast corridor to the Canadian Arctic, despite these warnings. If they had been around we might have been able to do something.
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They had the warning many years before that. I have done the research. A strike that Bin Laden did, took years to plan and accomplish. In a few months Bin Laden wouldn't have had the information he needed to launch the attacks. They would have had to research, take pictures, practice.