The Death of the Lord.

[Odhinn]

There are many reasons why religion and the belief of a higher being are in existence today. Mostly for comfort that this worlds suffering is worthy since the day of death is going to liberate us from all that is wrong and depressing. We will live in a state of peace, blah, blah, blah. The inception of our being is not in question for me, it really doesn't matter, we are here now and we need to look at ourselves to find an answer to the continuation of society’s positive evolution, and I'm proposing that the existence of God is hindering our ability to move forward as a human race that can maintain a sustainable future.

Heaven is a notion most, if not all faiths adhere to. This is a fundamental breach in the acquisition of knowledge, which is necessary for the positive evolutionary process to occur. We have through time improved and excessively been able to obtain information and our scientific knowledge has been greater then ever before. We can attribute most of these acquisitions by the nature of critical, philosophical, scientific thinking which expresses the idea that we must always obtain more questions from the answers provided in the latter question. Knowing one thing will always lead to asking more defined queries of the subject at hand. We know how to fly by understanding gravity and resistance of wind, for example. Knowledge is exponential in nature, and this tool I'm using, the internet, is a prime example of this theory.

Therefore, to reason that any event unknown to any of us except through the perceived implications of novels (bible, qoran) and stories (hearsay), we deem a final answer to the question; What happens after life? It is meant to be a final answer because we are there for eternity. Any attempt of answering a question with an absolute answer is limiting the advancement of knowledge and thus hinders the ability to expand the collective acquisition of knowledge. It is a block in our psyche that inevitably enters into the decision making. We make judgments and conclusion for events not yet transpired and these events can only be determined from the consequences of today's actions. God, by all his names, the Bible, the Qoran and any other novel that transpires the events upon our death is a fallacy and allows us to block our ability to ever expand the knowledge of ourselves, our place in the spectrum of things, and propagates ignorance. The only certainty of the afterlife is that life on earth will continue and understand through Reality the consequences of the decisions previously made.

We, as a human race, need to stop creating and basing our decisions on what we think God meant, and answer a question that is unable to be answered. This is the definition of ignorance. God must crucify himself as his 'son' did if we are ever to even begin to understand the significance of life. Our life.

[towski]

Any sense of irony that your user name is a norse god?

[Odhinn]

Any sense of irony that your user name is a norse god?


;)

Mythology is quite interesting, fables, hearsay, so to speak. It is a name that brings many thoughts and imagination. And he is the Ruler of the Gods, he judged the dead from battle to disect the noble ones from the evil ones. It is a good story like "It" or "1984" And they should be respected as such, not manipulaters of our universe.

[mataj]

I think we won't get rid of the Lord so easily. As an impersonation of authoritative leader, he's far to useful reigning tool for power hungry to abandon.

. . . We, as a human race, need to stop creating and basing our decisions on what we think God meant, . . . You got it all wrong. It's not what we think God meant, but what those in power say God meant. "Do it because God said so" actually means "Do it becase I said so, and don't you dare to put any kind of responsibility for my decisions on me!"

[Odhinn]

I think we won't get rid of the Lord so easily. As an impersonation of authoritative leader, he's far to useful reigning tool for power hungry to abandon.

You got it all wrong. It's not what we think God meant, but what those in power say God meant. "Do it because God said so" actually means "Do it becase I said so, and don't you dare to put any kind of responsibility for my decisions on me!"

Easy to do, it is not. God must appear himself to let us Know, until then it will always be, and maybe I must explain it in more detail next time, a matter of interpretation, by those in power especially.

Maybe this as a revision:

"We, as a human race, need to stop creating and basing our decisions on what we think God meant, or other's perceptions of what He meant, that gives us an answer to a question that is unable to be answered."

[sub_zer0]

We, as a human race, need to stop creating and basing our decisions on what we think God meant, and answer a question that is unable to be answered. This is the definition of ignorance. God must crucify himself as his 'son' did if we are ever to even begin to understand the significance of life. Our life.

What is wrong with answering questions using what God said, I mean we know what He meant.

[NiteGuy]

What is wrong with answering questions using what God said, I mean we know what He meant.

Apparently we don't know what He meant. If He he was as absolutely clear about what he meant, why do we have dozens of different versions of "Christianity"? Why do we have biblical scholars of all types who have done nothing but quibble about what God "means", in the minutest of detail, for centuries, and right up to today?

If everything were so succinct and understandable from the mouth of God, why is it the interpretation of what God "means", varies so wildly between people like Martin Luther King, Jr., and say a Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson?

Sorry, sub, but if it were all so easily understood, there wouldn't be a questions, now would there?

[Senor Herberto]

"Mostly for comfort that this worlds suffering is worthy since the day of death is going to liberate us from all that is wrong and depressing."

i'd say mostly it's miracles and the fact that God created the world and caused us to live.

[Odhinn]

"Mostly for comfort that this worlds suffering is worthy since the day of death is going to liberate us from all that is wrong and depressing."

i'd say mostly it's miracles and the fact that God created the world and caused us to live.

A miracle is a label you put on a series of events or coincidences which have positive consequences. It is not FACT that God created the world or the human being. It is an act of ignorance to attempt to pass hearsay and exaggerated foibles as fact. There are very few facts in life, the only I can think of is gravity. Whether you think God made the object fall to the ground or you think the theory of gravity explains it all, it doesn't matter the object will fall.
Have you ever played telephone, as a boy? Do you remember how distorted the sentence you started with was at the end? The bible was written at the earliest 100 years after the death of the "son", probably 400, and the general population wasn't at literacy level high enough to actually read it until almost 1500 years after the events transpired. How can you base an argument and declare it as fact when the foundation of the argument is as fallible as 1500 year old hearsay.

You have faith my friend and it helps you through your existence here for if you did not believe such a creature existed then you'd be lost. I prefer to have more substance to myself then to rely my existence or reason for being on an imaginary friend.

I cannot support an argument based on such weak grounds, I have no faith in God, I prefer to keep my faith in humanity. We are here now, that is a fact, God is not, that is my opinion, based on the highest of probabilities that he is not. If you can declare that you have seen God, is Alive, or even existing, I want him to know what I initially wrote, can you relay the message?
Until a person can point out to me and I can see God, touch God, smell God, and listen to Him, as well as every other person with eyesight, His existence will remain highly unprobable, which is a much stronger argument then fables, other's perceptions of events they've never experienced, and contradictory explanations.

[Odhinn]

What is wrong with answering questions using what God said, I mean we know what He meant.


What nightguy said.

[Odhinn]

A miracle is a label you put on a series of events or coincidences which have positive consequences. It is not FACT that God created the world or the human being. It is an act of ignorance to attempt to pass hearsay and exaggerated foibles as fact. There are very few facts in life, the only I can think of is gravity. Whether you think God made the object fall to the ground or you think the theory of gravity explains it all, it doesn't matter the object will fall.
Have you ever played telephone, as a boy? Do you remember how distorted the sentence you started with was at the end? The bible was written at the earliest 100 years after the death of the "son", probably 400, and the general population wasn't at literacy level high enough to actually read it until almost 1500 years after the events transpired. How can you base an argument and declare it as fact when the foundation of the argument is as fallible as 1500 year old hearsay.

You have faith my friend and it helps you through your existence here for if you did not believe such a creature existed then you'd be lost. I prefer to have more substance to myself then to rely my existence or reason for being on an imaginary friend.

I cannot support an argument based on such weak grounds, I have no faith in God, I prefer to keep my faith in humanity. We are here now, that is a fact, God is not, that is my opinion, based on the highest of probabilities that he is not. If you can declare that you have seen God, is Alive, or even existing, I want him to know what I initially wrote, can you relay the message?
Until a person can point out to me and I can see God, touch God, smell God, and listen to Him, as well as every other person with eyesight, His existence will remain highly unprobable, which is a much stronger argument then fables, other's perceptions of events they've never experienced, and contradictory explanations.

I must apologize I went way off course; it is not whether He exist or not that is the issue, it is the simple belief that He exist that is at the root of the conundrum.

We need to eliminate the belief that god might exist to be able to ascertain who we are now, and the nature of faith is the block in the psyche, it gives us answers that are not probable to be so and do not continue the quest to continue the acquisition of knowledge.

The acquisition of knowledge is at the root of the positive evolutionary process. Change is inevitable and thus evolution occurs, however it can go both ways, and so evolution can be negative. Positive evolution is the natural sense of goodness within our emotions and doing what is possible and necessary for that the majority of people live in conditions that favour happiness and are able to obtain, not only the necessary needs of life, but also anything else the society would like to structure itself with what would bring happiness and ability to the many as possible within the society.

Life should be about happiness now, not focused on the afterlife and to adjust our actions in ways so that we attain this afterlife of bliss. Doing Good, or rather being moral is knowing what feels good in ourselves, and behaving as such to bring happiness to others because we know it feels good to us. Emotions are universal, part of our animal selves. Everybody knows what feels good. Think sex. God, with all its names, is not needed to be our moral compass and more hatred/murder/evil steams from the belief of his existence then any other philosophy or belief system.

And so what I propose is that God should perish for the benefit of human kind, literally, if he exist, or simply the belief, the meme of Him.