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Sharpei
02-04-2006, 12:51 PM
http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060213&s=chester

The End Of The Internet
By Jeff Chester
[Posted Online on February 1, 2006]

The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we do online.

Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are developing strategies that would track and store information on our every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing system, the scope of which could rival the National Security Agency. According to white papers (http://www.democraticmedia.org/issues/netneutrality.html) now being circulated in the cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these providers would have first priority on our computer and television screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply shut out.

Under the plans they are considering, all of us--from content providers to individual users--would pay more to surf online, stream videos or even send e-mail. Industry planners are mulling new subscription plans that would further limit the online experience, establishing "platinum," "gold" and "silver" levels of Internet access that would set limits on the number of downloads, media streams or even e-mail messages that could be sent or received.

To make this pay-to-play vision a reality, phone and cable lobbyists are now engaged in a political campaign to further weaken the nation's communications policy laws. They want the federal government to permit them to operate Internet and other digital communications services as private networks, free of policy safeguards or governmental oversight. Indeed, both the Congress and the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are considering proposals that will have far-reaching impact on the Internet's future. Ten years after passage of the ill-advised Telecommunications Act of 1996, telephone and cable companies are using the same political snake oil to convince compromised or clueless lawmakers to subvert the Internet into a turbo-charged digital retail machine.

The telephone industry has been somewhat more candid than the cable industry about its strategy for the Internet's future. Senior phone executives have publicly discussed plans to begin imposing a new scheme for the delivery of Internet content, especially from major Internet content companies. As Ed Whitacre, chairman and CEO of AT&T, told Business Week in November, "Why should they be allowed to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because we and the cable companies have made an investment, and for a Google or Yahoo! or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes [for] free is nuts!"

The phone industry has marshaled its political allies to help win the freedom to impose this new broadband business model. At a recent conference held by the Progress and Freedom Foundation (http://www.pff.org/) , a think tank funded by Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other media companies, there was much discussion of a plan for phone companies to impose fees on a sliding scale, charging content providers different levels of service. "Price discrimination," noted PFF's resident media expert Adam Thierer, "drives the market-based capitalist economy."

Cont'd....... (http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060213&s=chester)

Confucius
02-04-2006, 08:35 PM
That is some scary stuff, but I dont think they'll actually every get away with doing it.

Sauniere
02-04-2006, 09:45 PM
To quote the horse from Ren and Stimpy, "No Sir, I don't like it."

This seems highly unconstitutional. I would guess that if anything like this were attempted, the lawyers working for ACLU-like organizations would have a field day.

The_Penguin
02-05-2006, 01:28 AM
:laughter:

Democritus
02-05-2006, 02:25 AM
To quote the horse from Ren and Stimpy, "No Sir, I don't like it."

This seems highly unconstitutional. I would guess that if anything like this were attempted, the lawyers working for ACLU-like organizations would have a field day.

Meh, that doesn't even matter. They're trying to out-think the geeks. Even if they pulled it off it'd be a year, max, before some geeks got together and said "screw this".

rjamortega
02-17-2006, 01:33 PM
As someone who lived "the good old days", I would have no problem kissing the cyber world goodbye. I'll just use it for work and for research and the rare purchase of personal products. Goodbye email!

Of course our employers will probably have to raise prices and rates in order to offset the increases they will face with their internet needs.

towski
02-17-2006, 01:38 PM
Sorry, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Riddley
02-17-2006, 02:12 PM
I heard some people discussing this (and you can hear it too here (http://www.radionz.co.nz/nr/programmes/ninetonoon/20060216)
click on "New Technology").
The main outcome will be a two tier internet community where some people will have the good stuff because they can afford it, the rest will have what's left.
It has already happened,here , with TV.

AgentM
02-17-2006, 03:27 PM
Those ****ers! If it happens in the US that'll mean it'll happen in all other countries because ISPs in other countries will look at it and say "Look we can get away with this."

faithfulservant
02-17-2006, 05:13 PM
To quote the horse from Ren and Stimpy, "No Sir, I don't like it."

This seems highly unconstitutional. I would guess that if anything like this were attempted, the lawyers working for ACLU-like organizations would have a field day.
Just where in the Constitution would you find this violation????

rjamortega
02-17-2006, 09:01 PM
Didn't Don Henley write a song about this years ago?

nonsqtr
02-18-2006, 01:34 PM
Yes, this is going on. But it's being combated by a lot of folks. For instance, the Internet-2 people have jumped into the fray. They were up testifying before the Senate Energy & Commerce committee last week. Senators don't like the idea of "privatizing" the internet. And wait till this thing reaches the House, you'll really see some fireworks then, would be my prediction.....

NiteGuy
02-18-2006, 02:58 PM
I'm not so sure that there's really anything to worry about, here, yet.

Look at it this way - SBC wants to try and force Google and Vonage and Ebay and other big users to pay extra for access to their network, or they say they will cut their subscribers off from being able to access them. Yeah, good luck with that.

Think about it. The only way this could possibly work in their favor, would be to get all of the other internet providers to do the same thing at the same time.

It ain't gonna happen. They may control their network, but there about a dozen other major players, and how many other regional and local companies providing internet service out there?

If they attempt this, and don't get everyone else, and I do mean everyone else, on board at the same time, I guarantee you that they won't be a major internet player long after that? Why?

Because everyone that currently has Vonage, or uses Ebay, or Google or any other major site regularly, is not going to give it up. They pay for their internet usage too, and if they can't get what they want from SBC, they will jump ship in a heartbeat to get to the sites and services they want and need.

That's what this moron has forgotten here. Yes, things like connection speeds and the network backbone are important. But what's even more important to the customers are what they can do with that network. And when that network no longer lets them do what they need to do, and some other network does, the customers will leave in droves for that other network.

This guy is talking about cutting his nose off to spite his face.

The_Penguin
02-24-2006, 01:28 AM
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the minute that these companies tried this, there would be someone trying to hack the system. Hystorically that's always been the case.