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Missouri Mule
02-17-2006, 01:10 AM
I sorta like this new freeze dried technique. They freeze dry the body, then shake it into fine particles, drop the remains into a hole in the ground and plant a tree on top to fertilize it. The last thing I want is a conventional funeral. It is a rip-off and a disgusting custom to come around to view a dead corpse. I told my wife I would haunt her if she gave me one. I'd rather be put on the compost pile before that.
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Preparing for pandemic: know how to bury your dead
Wed Feb 15, 2006 04:07 PM ET
By Andrew Stern
MINNEAPOLIS (Reuters) - When burying a body in the backyard, don't put it too close to the septic system. That was one piece of advice offered on Wednesday to a business conference on preparing for a potentially lethal bird flu andemic.
Preparations for a global flu pandemic, which many experts believe is overdue, have begun but the grisly details are horrific and the number of sick could quickly overwhelm the health care system...
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http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=11229138&src=rss/healthNews
All for reasonable precausions. Let's just be careful not to panic too much.
bowerbird
02-17-2006, 01:28 AM
Don't worry face masks worked for SARS and they should work for bird flu. Just see if you can get better fitting ones than this.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-sarsmask.htm
Don't worry face masks worked for SARS and they should work for bird flu. Just see if you can get better fitting ones than this.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-sarsmask.htm
How much I might like that type of mask might depend on where and how I got it. :D ;)
Sauniere
02-17-2006, 09:50 PM
I sorta like this new freeze dried technique. They freeze dry the body, then shake it into fine particles, drop the remains into a hole in the ground and plant a tree on top to fertilize it. The last thing I want is a conventional funeral. It is a rip-off and a disgusting custom to come around to view a dead corpse. I told my wife I would haunt her if she gave me one. I'd rather be put on the compost pile before that.
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Preparing for pandemic: know how to bury your dead
Wed Feb 15, 2006 04:07 PM ET
By Andrew Stern
MINNEAPOLIS (Reuters) - When burying a body in the backyard, don't put it too close to the septic system. That was one piece of advice offered on Wednesday to a business conference on preparing for a potentially lethal bird flu andemic.
Preparations for a global flu pandemic, which many experts believe is overdue, have begun but the grisly details are horrific and the number of sick could quickly overwhelm the health care system...
(Snip)
http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=11229138&src=rss/healthNews
I don't care about the viewing, closed casket, wake, buried with all my prized possessions (it's gotta be a semi-BIG coffin), then buried somewhere for archaeologists to dig me up 10,000 years for now... :D
el nopal
02-17-2006, 10:23 PM
I don't care about the viewing, closed casket, wake, buried with all my prized possessions (it's gotta be a semi-BIG coffin), then buried somewhere for archaeologists to dig me up 10,000 years for now... :D
But hey, atleast I'll have a Master's Degree partially done before I go.....
soundcrd
02-18-2006, 01:02 AM
All this hype about bird flu is really nothing more than that: hype. I mean, itr seems every year we have some story about how somebody in Southeast Asia gets sick and dies, and suddenly everyone needs to sequester themselves in bunkers like there's some sort of impending nuclear war. But notice we haven't had any of those predictions come true?
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be aware of the possibility of a pandemic and have plans for how to deal with it, but all this hype is just the media sensationalizing to sell ads.
el nopal
02-18-2006, 01:36 AM
All this hype about bird flu is really nothing more than that: hype. I mean, itr seems every year we have some story about how somebody in Southeast Asia gets sick and dies, and suddenly everyone needs to sequester themselves in bunkers like there's some sort of impending nuclear war. But notice we haven't had any of those predictions come true?
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be aware of the possibility of a pandemic and have plans for how to deal with it, but all this hype is just the media sensationalizing to sell ads.
maybe, but it has spread to Europe.
nonsqtr
02-18-2006, 01:31 PM
The idea of "green burial" seems to be catching on over here. It's been going on in England for quite some time, but here in the states there's only two places (currently) where it's sanctioned and legal. One of them is here in California, in Marin County.
el nopal
02-18-2006, 03:08 PM
Oh my god!!!!!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11418191/
el nopal
02-18-2006, 05:37 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11044171/from/RL.2/
Bird Flu and influenza lethalness is based on genes?
chukster8614
02-18-2006, 06:15 PM
Very grisly stuff indeed. I remember hearing from my grandmother how in the flu pandemic of 1919, they buried people before they were even dead. Once when the town went to move a graveyard, they opened the coffins and found deep scratches under the lids.
So far though it hasn't mutated into a human-to-human virus, and since it hasn't yet, I've heard it said that there is little likelihood that it ever will.
But there's no point in worrying about it. This is definitely something beyond our control. I'm just going to enjoy the important people in my life right now.
faithfulservant
02-20-2006, 11:53 AM
How much I might like that type of mask might depend on where and how I got it. :D ;)You've got to admit that' it's quite a bit better than the single user version (use your imagination, folks, if you can't figure it out, we'll have to send towski over for a live demonstration)
faithfulservant
02-20-2006, 11:56 AM
Very grisly stuff indeed. I remember hearing from my grandmother how in the flu pandemic of 1919, they buried people before they were even dead. Once when the town went to move a graveyard, they opened the coffins and found deep scratches under the lids.
Urban legend alert!!!
Use a little common sense. If you had been buried alive, anoxia would have finished you off within fifteen - 30 minutes. In addition, anyone sick enough to be buried would have been too weak to make scratches in the inside of a coffin.
chukster8614
02-20-2006, 01:38 PM
Urban legend alert!!!
Use a little common sense. If you had been buried alive, anoxia would have finished you off within fifteen - 30 minutes. In addition, anyone sick enough to be buried would have been too weak to make scratches in the inside of a coffin.
Actually I goofed that one. I got mixed up -- they used to find coffins with scratches under the lids for people who had narcolepsy. I don't know if this is true, but apparently they used to mistakenly bury such people alive during Edgar Allen Poe's time -- who also had this condition.
After the Spanish flu, they were finding corpses lying face down in their coiffins from rolling over while still alive.
el nopal
02-20-2006, 01:57 PM
Actually I goofed that one. I got mixed up -- they used to find coffins with scratches under the lids for people who had narcolepsy. I don't know if this is true, but apparently they used to mistakenly bury such people alive during Edgar Allen Poe's time -- who also had this condition.
After the Spanish flu, they were finding corpses lying face down in their coiffins from rolling over while still alive.
hahahah, they probably thought they were dreaming a nightmare, "How come the blanket got so stiff?" "Gee, it's awfully dark, I guess I'll go back to sleep."
smitty
02-20-2006, 05:26 PM
and you find that funny?
whatever
02-20-2006, 09:15 PM
and you find that funny?
i didn't until you say that. :lol: :D
el nopal
02-20-2006, 09:50 PM
That's ok, I crack myself up.
Mirror Lake 444
02-22-2006, 02:40 PM
Very grisly stuff indeed. I remember hearing from my grandmother how in the flu pandemic of 1919, they buried people before they were even dead. Once when the town went to move a graveyard, they opened the coffins and found deep scratches under the lids.
So far though it hasn't mutated into a human-to-human virus, and since it hasn't yet, I've heard it said that there is little likelihood that it ever will.
But there's no point in worrying about it. This is definitely something beyond our control. I'm just going to enjoy the important people in my life right now.
Yeah right. Did your granmother tell you this around Halloween? :rolleyes:
Mirror Lake 444
02-22-2006, 02:48 PM
Sadly when the pandemic does hit (and it's inevitable) it will be like the boy who cried wolf due to the media hysteria. It will probably catch us off guard. Just don't depend on the government. You saw what bafoons they were in the aftermath of Katrina.
One thing if for sure. Our self serving politicians will have all the medication and care they need in D.C. -- we won't. I still can't get over their panic when the anthrax got mailed. Tht may have been justified but in their panic with their panties all in a wad they forgot all about the postal workers and could have cared less. My senator won't even respond to me anymore. I gave him a piece of my mind regarding that.
What ticks me off the most is the ignorance about this. There are still people who dont' get the fact that the virus HAS NOT mutated to move from human to human. Until then we are O.K.
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