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marie
11-05-2003, 02:08 PM
'I killed so many women'
Ridgway confesses to dozens of slayings in Green River case

SEATTLE, Washington (CNN) -- Gary Ridgway has admitted to killing dozens of women in the Pacific Northwest, a confession that gives him more murder convictions on his record than any other serial killer in U.S. history.

"I killed so many women I have a hard time keeping them straight," he said in a confession read aloud in court. "I wanted to kill as many women as I thought were prostitutes as I possibly could," Ridgway said in the statement.

Some relatives of the victims were crying in the courtroom as Ridgway made the confessions.

Before the hearing, authorities would not confirm what many speculated, that Ridgway provided information in exchange for a plea deal that would save him from the death penalty and give him life without parole.

However, two of the bodies on the official list of Green River victims were found in Oregon, which has capital punishment, and it is still unclear whether Ridgway will plead guilty to those murders.

The Green River Killer's slaying spree began in 1982, targeting women in the Seattle area, mainly runaways and prostitutes. The first victims turned up in the Green River south of Seattle, giving the killer his name.

The remains of dozens of women turned up near Pacific Northwest ravines, rivers, airports and freeways in the 1980s. Of them, investigators officially listed 49 women as probable victims of the Green River Killer.

One of the victims of the Green River killing spree was Patricia Yellow Robe.

"I find it incredible that an individual was able to cause that many deaths, perpetrate that much suffering and misery on so many people," said Joe Yellow Robe, father of Patricia.

Investigators had hoped for a quick arrest, but were stumped for years. Nobody was arrested until 2001, when DNA evidence led to seven murder charges against the 54-year-old Ridgway.

Until recently, lawyers for Ridgway had said he was going to plead not guilty. The local prosecutor said there would be no deals.

"The policy of this office is not to bargain with the death penalty, period," said Norm Maleng, King County prosecutor

But this summer, four more bodies were located, the first time in years missing victims had been found, leading to speculation Ridgway was offering information for a deal.

Investigators also recently found human bones in two other locations near Seattle, which raised questions about how so many victims could be discovered at once. Investigators say six women are still missing from the Green River case.

Ridgway's pleas to 48 counts would give him more convictions -- though not necessarily more slayings -- than any other serial killer in the nation's history.

John Wayne Gacy, who preyed on men and boys in Chicago in the 1970s, was convicted of killing 33. Ted Bundy, whose killing started in Washington state, confessed to killing more than 30 women and girls, but was convicted only of killing three before he was executed.
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Maybe at last the families of the victims can "lay to rest" their loved ones. No more wondering..... :(

The Man
11-05-2003, 03:22 PM
Let's hope so!

up2date
11-05-2003, 03:26 PM
This case has been mentioned in a couple of other threads. Horrifying.

There's talk that if he plea bargains a deal that avoids the death penalty, that will effectively end the DP in Washington.

marie
11-05-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by up2date
This case has been mentioned in a couple of other threads. Horrifying.

There's talk that if he plea bargains a deal that avoids the death penalty, that will effectively end the DP in Washington.

oops, I must have missed the other threads - sorry for the repeat. can you merge them?

Anyway, I believe there has already been a plea. I think this was the only way they were able to get him to reveal the locations of the remains.

up2date
11-05-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by marie
oops, I must have missed the other threads - sorry for the repeat. can you merge them? No need. I think this is the only one that stands on its own.

Is the plea official, then? I thought they were still deciding.

NetxMan
11-05-2003, 05:36 PM
I hope the sting him up. And execute him on public television.

Captain America
11-05-2003, 06:52 PM
That adds a whole new meaning to the phrase, "So many women, so little time."

Blueangel
11-05-2003, 08:52 PM
Has any TV channel broadcast his voice over there?

Captain America
11-05-2003, 09:51 PM
Yes... he speaks.

up2date
11-06-2003, 12:06 AM
It is official: He accepted a plea and will not receive the DP.

marie
11-06-2003, 05:16 PM
Yes, he has accepted the plea. Sentencing will not take place until the 19th. Until that time, he must cooperate with investigators with details about the deaths and where he left the bodies...this is part of the plea. They are investigating 3 other missing persons. Some people are angry that they allowed him to plea, but I totally understand why they did.

And yes up2date, I was watching a program last night regarding the future of the DP in Washington State. It seems that others may be able to use the arguement that since his crimes were so heinous, and he wasn't charge with the DP, then why should they. Interesting, I hadn't even thought of that angle until you brought it up.

This program also mentioned many of the details (from his past & present) about Ridgeway that I had not heard of before...quite chilling.

Blueangel
11-06-2003, 06:47 PM
I agree with the plea bargaining, in so far as, the needs of the relatives of the victims are paramount.
They need to find the bodies of their loved ones and give them a decent burial.

I'm absolutely chomping at the bit to see a documentary about this man.
I want to know what events formed him and the impulses that made him pursue his murderous path.
It always amazes me how the people closest to a serial killer almost go into a state of denial. They usually suspect but refuse to accept the facts presented under their very noses.

marie
11-06-2003, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Blueangel
I agree with the plea bargaining, in so far as, the needs of the relatives of the victims are paramount.
They need to find the bodies of their loved ones and give them a decent burial.

I'm absolutely chomping at the bit to see a documentary about this man.
I want to know what events formed him and the impulses that made him pursue his murderous path.
It always amazes me how the people closest to a serial killer almost go into a state of denial. They usually suspect but refuse to accept the facts presented under their very noses.


Blueangel,
Me too - I was just saying that last night. I want to know what his thoughts were. I did get a little more insight into "who" this person actually is. Last night they talked about how he had thought about killing his mother...and the fact that he was sexually attracted to her. His first wife cheated on him, so in turn he viewed her as a prostitute. I believe they said he went to GREAT lengths to concele his activities. He also, this is very sick so pardon me, actually went back and raped the women sometimes days after he killed them because he said it was "easier". I wonder 1. how his current wife did not know 2. why he didn't also kill her.

If I find a detailed story for you, I will post a link.

You may also find "interest" in the Vancouver pig-farmer if you like to study these types of cases.

Blueangel
11-06-2003, 07:27 PM
Thanks for that Marie.
Any links you provide will be appreciated. It will probably be a while before we get to see the documentary over here.

Sounds like he really is one sick lil puppy. But why and is it possible to detect a psychological profile and prevent this being repeated?

cxepwn
11-07-2003, 07:49 AM
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"I killed so many women I have a hard time keeping them straight," he said in a confession read aloud in court. "I wanted to kill as many women as I thought were prostitutes as I possibly could," Ridgway said in the statement.
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I know how he feels!


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Blueangel
11-07-2003, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by cxepwn
I know how he feels! I find your statement offensive. A worthless, off the cuff remark.
Would you care to quantify it?

Voice Of Reason
11-07-2003, 01:06 PM
As I said on another thread on this subject the plea bagain to avoid the death penalty is a double edge sword for the families of the victums.........

Sure they are relieved to finally find the remains of their loved ones but most feel cheated because this fiend murdered 48 women and will not get the utilmate penalty for his horrendous acts..............Death........

I can feel for them...........If I had the opportunity I would pull the switch on this scum..............

JLwH211
11-14-2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by marie

Ridgway's pleas to 48 counts would give him more convictions -- though not necessarily more slayings -- than any other serial killer in the nation's history.

John Wayne Gacy, who preyed on men and boys in Chicago in the 1970s, was convicted of killing 33. Ted Bundy, whose killing started in Washington state, confessed to killing more than 30 women and girls, but was convicted only of killing three before he was executed.



Henry Lee Lucas confessed to over 300 killings.

marie
11-14-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by JLwH211
Henry Lee Lucas confessed to over 300 killings.

Did he really kill 300? I've heard that some serial killers will admit to killing people, when they actually didn't. It's like in their minds it makes them "better" if they are thought to have killed more.