ANN COULTER IS STUPID

[DRMIZER]

Think of the mindless who buy her books. They make her a goddess. If they would stop buying her crap, she would go away and wait tables for a living and keep her silly mouth shut. She must think she’s cute with the following quotes.

"Here the country had finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism and they don't want to fight it. They would have, except it would put them on the same side as the United States." -- Ann Coulter, P. 5
"Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now." -- Ann Coulter, P. 6
"If it were true that conservatives were racist, sexist, homophobic, fascist, stupid, inflexible, angry, and self-righteous, shouldn't their arguments be easy to deconstruct? Someone who is making a point out of anger, ideology, inflexibility, or resentment would presumably construct a flimsy argument. So why can't the argument itself be dismembered rather than the speaker's personal style or hidden motives? Why the evasions?" -- Ann Coulter, P. 10
"What liberals mean by "goose-stepping" or "ethnic cleansing" is generally something along the lines of "eliminating taxpayer funding for the National Endowment for the Arts. But they can't say that, or people would realize they're crazy. So instead they accuse Republicans of speaking in 'code words.'" -- Ann Coulter, P. 12
"If liberals expressed half as much self-righteous indignation about crime as they do about the random case of police brutality, one might be inclined to take them seriously. Criminals they like. It's the police they hate." -- Ann Coulter, P. 28
"There is no surer proof of a Republican mediocrity than the media's respect." -- Ann Coulter, P. 51
"Indeed, the media elites covering national politics would be indistinguishable from the Democratic Party except the Democratic Party isn't liberal enough. A higher percentage of the Washington press corps voted for Clinton in 1992 than did his demographic category: 'Registered Democrats.'" -- Ann Coulter, P. 56
"This is how six-year-olds argue: They call everything "stupid." The left's primary argument is the angry reaction of a helpless child deprived of the ability to mount logical counterarguments. Someday we will turn to the New York Times editorial page and find the Newspaper of Record denouncing President Bush for being a 'penis-head.'" -- Ann Coulter, P. 121
"'Stupid' means one thing: "threatening to the interests of the Democratic Party." The more Conservative the Republican, the more vicious and hysterical the attacks on his intelligence will be." -- Ann Coulter, P. 125
"Considering the invective constantly being heaped on the "religious right," it is probably not surprising that few people identify themselves as members. "Religious Right" is always something somebody else is, like a 'son of a *****.'" -- Ann Coulter, P. 177
"The imaginary threat of the "religious right" is important because it allows liberals to complain about their victimization by religious zealots. It is not sufficient compensation to be applauded wildly on Politically Incorrect and other late-night TV shows, profiled in fawning articles in the New York Times, photographed for People magazine, showered with awards, Pulitizer Prizes, and other sundry tributes. Liberals insist that they also be admired for their bravery in standing up to Christians." -- Ann Coulter, P. 183
"Liberals hate religion because politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition." -- Ann Coulter, P. 194
"Much of the left's hate speech bears greater similarity to a psychological disorder than to standard political discourse. The hatred is blinding, producing logical contradictions that would be impossible to sustain were it not for the central element faith plays in the left's new religion. The basic tenet of their faith is this: Maybe they were wrong on facts and policies, but they are good and conservatives are evil. You almost want to give it to them. It's all they have left." -- Ann Coulter, P. 199
"(L)iberals don't think a majority of Americans support abortion -- otherwise they would welcome the overturning of Roe v. Wade, which would do nothing more than put abortion to a vote. As their theatrics on Roe demonstrate, the last thing they want is a vote. Once Americans were allowed to vote on abortion. Then Roe came along and overturned the democratically enacted laws of forty-eight states." -- Ann Coulter, P. 201
"Most of the time, liberals do not imagine the world is real. Their contribution to political debate is worthless, since even they do not believe things they say. The more shocking and iconoclastic they are, the more fashion points they accrue. Liberal Manhattanites believe in redistribution of their own wealth and ceaseless police brutality like they believe in Martians." -- Ann Coulter, P. 203

[JD3]

She's making too much money to be stupid. She's just taking mainstream conservative beliefs to the extreme. And where better to do that than with McCarty.

This would make excellent satire. ;)

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by JD3
She's making too much money to be stupid. She's just taking mainstream conservative beliefs to the extreme. And where better to do that than with McCarty.

This would make excellent satire. ;)

Actually, to make such statements she has to be stupid! I know a lot of stupid people who have big bucks. Money and Brains don't necessarily go together.

These are not mainstream conservative beliefs. . . . they are extreme-ultra-right-wing idiot sentiments. Actually, I honestly feel sorry for anyone who would subscribe to these ideas as serious reading. But are they out there? You betch'em!

I know, she'd do or say anything to get her face on TV. I find it difficult to believe this woman graduated from a University and has a law degree. (I'm sure the institution is proud of their alumni)

What a complete waste of humanity. . . . .oh, except for money, which IS the most important thing in the US!:banghead:

[JD3]

I did say to the extreme. Also, I am not convinced she believes all she says.

I repeat: it'd make good Satire.;)

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by JD3
I did say to the extreme. Also, I am not convinced she believes all she says.

I repeat: it'd make good Satire.;)

I guess it's a matter of taste and what you consider good satire.

[JD3]

I understand what you are saying. But I have listen to her and I have laughed. I even heard Bill O'Rielly ask her how she thought anyone could take her seriously.

It got her on TV. Sold some books. The only real problem I see, is that someone (more than one actually) probably read the book and took her seriously. Those people we have to worry about.:devil:

[marie]

I would be even more concerned about the people that acutally purchased the Ann Coulter talking doll :D

[ScummyD]

Originally posted by DRMIZER
Think of the mindless who buy her books. They make her a goddess. If they would stop buying her crap, she would go away and wait tables for a living and keep her silly mouth shut.
How would you have any idea if those who buy her books are"mindless"? Or those who buy Al Franken's books? You seem a little bitter about Coulter in your posts. Who cares what she writes? Obviously not you so forget about it. Don't read it. It is not like she is going to get away with anything, any lies or distortions get picked up instantly by her opponents and she is hung out to dry.


Originally posted by DRMIZER
Actually, to make such statements she has to be stupid! I know a lot of stupid people who have big bucks. Money and Brains don't necessarily go together.

I know, she'd do or say anything to get her face on TV. I find it difficult to believe this woman graduated from a University and has a law degree. (I'm sure the institution is proud of their alumni)

What a complete waste of humanity. . . . .oh, except for money, which IS the most important thing in the US!:banghead:
Listen to how bitter and salty you are.
"A complete waste of humanity"? Just because she wrote a few books you don't agree with?
You can't even accept that she has a law degree and call her stupid as an insult.

[JD3]

Originally posted by marie
I would be even more concerned about the people that acutally purchased the Ann Coulter talking doll :D

OK. I laughed. Really laughed. Thanks.:lol: :lol: :lol:

[stjohn]

Originally posted by marie
I would be even more concerned about the people that acutally purchased the Ann Coulter talking doll :D

The doll is anatomically correct: it contains no heart and the head is an empty space surrounded by plastic.

[marie]

Originally posted by stjohn
The doll is anatomically correct: it contains no heart and the head is an empty space surrounded by plastic.

stjohn, I don't think Ann is the type to refund your money. She is a capitalist after all :D :D

[Missouri Mule]

She is deliberately controversial because it makes money for her. She is like Rush Limbaugh. If they were perfectly rational and sensible no one would pay them any mind. She stirs the pot just like he does. Both are laughing all the way to the bank.

BTW, she is not in any way stupid. She clerked on the Supreme Court. You don't get there by being a dummy. She probably doesn't spend a whole lot of money on internet message boards either.

[marie]

Originally posted by Missouri Mule
She is deliberately controversial because it makes money for her. She is like Rush Limbaugh. If they were perfectly rational and sensible no one would pay them any mind. She stirs the pot just like he does. Both are laughing all the way to the bank.

BTW, she is not in any way stupid. She clerked on the Supreme Court. You don't get there by being a dummy. She probably doesn't spend a whole lot of money on internet message boards either.

I'm surprised it took you this long to show up on this thread ;)

[stjohn]

Originally posted by marie
stjohn, I don't think Ann is the type to refund your money. She is a capitalist after all :D :D

Opportunist, like the rest of them (on both sides).

[Missouri Mule]

Marie, I have been spread a little thin here trying to keep up with all the threads. Believe me, I have been trying.

[marie]

Originally posted by Missouri Mule
Marie, I have been spread a little thin here trying to keep up with all the threads. Believe me, I have been trying.

Ah, MM......I was just pulling your chain :)



Right on stjohn :eek:

[DRMIZER]

Just thought of something. Ann and Rush should get hitched. Ann Limbaugh......has a ring to it. What a combo! Two in the lunie bin. (I know he's married but he's been married twice before this. . . no biggie!)

[marie]

Originally posted by DRMIZER
Just thought of something. Ann and Rush should get hitched. Ann Limbaugh......has a ring to it. What a combo! Two in the lunie bin. (I know he's married but he's been married twice before this. . . no biggie!)


Yes, it would be interesting...Rush and Ann.

I think Ann and Michael Savage would make a better couple :D

[DRMIZER]

Ooohhhhhhh, even better!

[azov]

ABOUT THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD

You're damn right!

[Missouri Mule]

I think Rush's wife Marta might have something to say about this.

Coulter is no idiot. She is a flame thrower and she gains notoriety and a lot of money when doing so. It would be more effective to actually point our her factual errors than issue a blanket condemnation. Has anyone actually read her book? I haven't. Has anyone actually read Michael Moore's books? I haven't and for that reason have been reluctant to to attack him. I'm not a fan of his and I have stated he is a bright and articulate fellow. I do think he is a cheap shot artist, however.

All of us to some extent (perhaps to a large extent) base our belief system on selected facts. We should constantly reexamine our beliefs as new facts emerge.

Which brings up another matter. I was reading Monday's WSJ and happened to come across a most interesting article that discusses Iraq. Did you all know that there were some 25 TONS of classified documents seized over there? That there were names, companies and nations named in those documents. I don't want to go off on a tangent here but we could all do with a reminder that we had better keep our minds open and not make a rush to judgment. Unless Coulter's book has been read then most are going on word of mouth from those who have an ax to grind. Read her book. Point out the inconsistencies or factual errors and make your case. That's what an intellectually honest person should do.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by azov
ABOUT THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD

You're damn right!

After you've said that, there's little else to say.

[Missouri Mule]

This site may be of interest. Whatever one thinks of her, she has gotten people's attention.

http://hnn.us/articles/1554.html

[Captain America]

Truly, I just want to bend Ann Coulter over the coffee table and.... <censored>.

[Eric]

I think that as we move on, less and less people are taking her seriously anyhow. She has lost a lot of credibility and I compare her to Dr. Laura. Millions and millions and books sold, but only a small few take her seriously. And as long as she continues to speak, she just continues to make her whole party look real bad. I say, let her speak. We get a good chuckle, the right wingers cringe at her sillyness and nobody ultimately takes her all that seriously. Thank you Dr. Laura!
It's not to say that someone like Michael Moore can't be blamed for a lot of misinterpretation. He has an uncanny ability to use statistics in his favor. But his overall messsage is much more plausible than Coulter's and therefore subject to less ridiculed by the right. Not that they haven't taken their shots or anything.

[Simon666]

Originally posted by JD3
I did say to the extreme. Also, I am not convinced she believes all she says.
I wouldn't assume so. She may say differently in the US because she may be fired for it (happened when she said to a disabled Viet Nam vet "people like you caused us to lose that war"). When asked in an interview for the Belgian magazine Humo if she really meant:
Originally spoken by the dumb blonde
“We need to execute people like John Walker [Lindh] in order to physically intimidate liberals by making them realize that they could be killed too.”
she confirmed yes.

[DRMIZER]

Let me clarify. . . . .Ann Coulter is a bonified idiot. . . . .drop the stupid.

[Simon666]

That's probably what many people thought in Europe when a short guy with black hair, brown eyes and a ridiculous moustache gave hate tirades on Jews and put forward the exact opposite of him, blond hair blue eyed people, as ideal. That he didn't really mean it, or was just a trivial idiot.

This woman's ideas are dangerous bordering insanity and that many of the right worship her is telling and should raise concern. I would like her to be trivialised, but I don't think this is an option.

The devil looks like the people you least suspect, in this case a dumb half pretty blonde.

[DRMIZER]

You could possibly be correct. Many people here thinks she is funny or a satirist. Not me.

[Missouri Mule]

Evidently she had the desired effect judging from all of the emoting from the left. Ka-ching! Ka-ching!

[marie]

Originally posted by Missouri Mule
Evidently she had the desired effect judging from all of the emoting from the left. Ka-ching! Ka-ching!


It's not the effect she has on the left that concerns me. Like Simon, I believe that some of her statements are dangerous and irresponsible.

[Missouri Mule]

Would it not be correct to say that the left also makes irresponsible and "dangerous" statements? That infuriates those on the right. It seems to me that this is the mirror image of one another.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Missouri Mule
Would it not be correct to say that the left also makes irresponsible and "dangerous" statements? That infuriates those on the right. It seems to me that this is the mirror image of one another.

To make this statement you must be able to share a few of those irresponsible and dangerous statements. Right?

Please, find someone on the left who is as far out as Coulter is on the right.

[Missouri Mule]

You're kidding, right?

Michael Moore. Noam Chomsky. Robert Fisk. John Pilger.

[DRMIZER]

No, I'm not kidding! Just wanted you to try to equate Coulter with any other human being. Funny, out of the whole flock you mentioned I only know of one, Michael Moore. So, guess the others haven't reached the pinnacle of STUPID yet!

PS
She's still stupid! And un-funny.

[Missouri Mule]

Because they are beyond stupid. Bordering on evil if you ask me; especially Pilger. One is said to be "pilgerized" after he distorts the news.

[Simon666]

I don't see Michael Moore advocating the rounding up of people who differ of opinion. Pathetic try Mule. And to say she's right on because she annoys the left is beyond common sense. If I say Saddam is a nice bloke that never killed anyone I will trigger emotional response from the right, but I will not be right on. :rolleyes:

[stjohn]

It is unfortunate that we, as a society, have created the need for any of them.

[Missouri Mule]

"I don't see Michael Moore advocating the rounding up of people who differ of opinion. Pathetic try Mule."

A perceptive person would have seen that she was not serious when she made this statement.

[Simon666]

I already told you she confirmed in an interview for a Belgian magazine she was serious about it. She also said she means everything she says.

Where do you get this idea she doesn't? Because you wouldn't like her to be, and so you could feel better about yourself for liking her?

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Simon666
I already told you she confirmed in an interview for a Belgian magazine she was serious about it. She also said she means everything she says.

Where do you get this idea she doesn't? Because you wouldn't like her to be, and so you could feel better about yourself for liking her?

Gee Simon, guess you lack perception! :lol:

[Simon666]

I guess I do. :D I have seen him claim the same on Pravda, don't know where he gets the idea from. What's the point in doing politics or writing about them if you're not serious about it? Besides, even if she is not serious as Mule seems to think, it is very, very unfunny.

[Missouri Mule]

"Where do you get this idea she doesn't?"

I suppose that my perception is based on years of experience. I have been described by many as one of the best BS'rs around. I can certainly tell another one when I see them. She is playing the liberals like a cheap fiddle and making a killing selling her books. Just let her be. Lighten up.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Simon666
I guess I do. :D I have seen him claim the same on Pravda, don't know where he gets the idea from. What's the point in doing politics or writing about them if you're not serious about it? Besides, even if she is not serious as Mule seems to think, it is very, very unfunny.

You're right Simon. Now let's see, who's buying her trash? Must be the liberals and. the liberal media keeping her in business. If it's a money thing, like I believe it is, the liberals should stop supporting Coulter, don't you think? :confused: :rofl: Again, it's the liberal's fault she's successful!

This has got to be the no spin zone .

[Missouri Mule]

It's the publicity. I haven't bought her book. But a lot of people do because of the publicity. Get it? It's the publicity. “Dale Earnhardt once told me that when they stop booing, you better start worrying," (Jeff Gordon)

http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/3455074.htm

[DRMIZER]

Don't you think the publicity has to result in sales = money or, is it just the publicity? If publicity results in $$$$, who's providing the money. . . .the dems or the repubs? Someone has to buy something or she's history. So, who's doing the buying?

And who's giving her the publicity now? Liberal media or FOX? Someone is responsible for kicking the mule (liberal mule, not Mo.)

[Missouri Mule]

She gets publicity from many sources, Fox, MSNBC, the liberals who dislike her. Meanwhile those who identify with her views are motivated to purchase her book to see what the fuss is all about. This is not rocket science. I once bought Al Gore's book from Amazon "earth in the balance." Best sleep aid I have ever bought.

[Simon666]

Originally posted by Missouri Mule
I suppose that my perception is based on years of experience. I have been described by many as one of the best BS'rs around. I can certainly tell another one when I see them. She is playing the liberals like a cheap fiddle and making a killing selling her books. Just let her be. Lighten up.
I thought so, a personal feeling, nothing substantial. Well, I believe the best person to ask how Anne Coulter thinks is Anne Coulter and as it just happens, in an interview for a foreign magazine, which has no implications on what she does in the US so she can freely speak what is on her mind, she confirmed she is serious about it.

[Missouri Mule]

Do you take everything so literal? If I told you with a straight face there was a "skyhook" or a "left-handed monkey wrench", would you believe me? If not, why not? Apply some common sense reasoning to what Coulter says.

[JD3]

Originally posted by DRMIZER
You're right Simon. Now let's see, who's buying her trash? Must be the liberals and. the liberal media keeping her in business. If it's a money thing, like I believe it is, the liberals should stop supporting Coulter, don't you think? :confused: :rofl: Again, it's the liberal's fault she's successful!

This has got to be the no spin zone .

Actually O'Reilly told her she was too far right to be taken seriously. :lol:

[Simon666]

I wish I had the interview lying around here, I could translate it...

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by JD3
Actually O'Reilly told her she was too far right to be taken seriously. :lol:

Well, if O'Reilly said it. . . . . . . .:p

[Quincy Wisdom]

Coulter must be doing something right...

[rjamortega]

Oh come off it...You guys are so sensitive. And that's why she makes those statements. It's goofy humor designed to crackup us on the right, and get you on the left all bent out of shape. Limbaugh perfected that style, and look how much you hate him.

Plus you have to admit, you folks on the left make the most outlandish and stupid assertions about our guys...
Yeah, "Reagan and Bush are really morons" (and get elected to the highest office). "Bush stole the election" - come on, you know how the system works! "Ashcroft is taking away our rights" - Rrrriiiight.

But it's fun accusing your apponents of all sorts of silly stuff. Just don't get carried away with it. Your mistake is that you take yourselves way too seriously.

I suggest you on the left start reading the more serious stuff by guys like Krauthammer, Prager and many others. In fact, tap into Dennis Prager's website and check out his short articles. This guy is the wisest man in America.

[Paladin]

Two Questions:


Which of the Coulter posts listed in the original message on this thread, does anyone disagree with?


Who is dumber --- Ann Coulter or the person who named this thread?

[rjamortega]

Thanks for reminding me paladin...

DRMIZER,

So if only the "mindless" will stop buying her books, she will go away? My, aren't we showing an arrogant side. ...I side with her politics but I'm not supposed to buy her books lest DRMISER thinks I'm mindless...(?). Rrrriiiiight.

So with your logic if all you fools would just stop buying Hilary's and Al Franken's books, they would go away too. You've got a deal! Let's both stop reading Ann and Hilary.:D

[KG20]

Originally posted by rjamortega
Thanks for reminding me paladin...

DRMIZER,

So if only the "mindless" will stop buying her books, she will go away? My, aren't we showing an arrogant side. ...I side with her politics but I'm not supposed to buy her books lest DRMISER thinks I'm mindless...(?). Rrrriiiiight.

So with your logic if all you fools would just stop buying Hilary's and Al Franken's books, they would go away too. You've got a deal! Let's both stop reading Ann and Hilary.:D

Oh, buying Ann Coulter books Rja...whatever the rest of your name is. So that explains your posts.:p

Thanks, always wanted to know where you learned the things you learned, from an ignorant far right woman (Coulter), who I agree, is an idiot.:D

[rjamortega]

Well DK20, that's not quite how it worked with me. Maybe with you. When I first started voting I was well into my 20s and it was Reagan's 2nd term. I voted for the democrat - Mondale, I think? After that though I came to realize that I was only voting with my 25 year indoctrination that says Dems are for the working guy and Repubs are for the rich. So I started educating myself and threw in some common sense, too.

The Coulter book is a gift by the way. She's ok, but not really going where I want to. She does piss you guys off though so that's ok.

I try to listen to sources like Pacifica Radio and read op-eds by the more liberal folks just to see how you're thinking. But I like to think that I have a political philosophy and then I pick authors who support my beliefs. Believe it or not, some conservatives really can think for themselves.

And that brings up another thing. Unlike you, I actually see you as decent people with a different philosophy.

OOPS! Sorry 'bout that KG20.

rja...whatever my name is

[JD3]

Originally posted by rjamortega
Well DK20, that's not quite how it worked with me. Maybe with you. When I first started voting I was well into my 20s and it was Reagan's 2nd term. I voted for the democrat - Mondale, I think? After that though I came to realize that I was only voting with my 25 year indoctrination that says Dems are for the working guy and Repubs are for the rich. So I started educating myself and threw in some common sense, too.

The Coulter book is a gift by the way. She's ok, but not really going where I want to. She does piss you guys off though so that's ok.

I try to listen to sources like Pacifica Radio and read op-eds by the more liberal folks just to see how you're thinking. But I like to think that I have a political philosophy and then I pick authors who support my beliefs. Believe it or not, some conservatives really can think for themselves.

And that brings up another thing. Unlike you, I actually see you as decent people with a different philosophy.

OOPS! Sorry 'bout that KG20.

rja...whatever my name is

Sounds like a good plan. I often listen Rush and Hannity and Scarborough and even Coulter (but she is over the edge). We should always challenege our beliefs.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[azov]

Goofy humor designed to crack us up on the right . . .

Just like Hitler's jests in 1920s Germany . . .

If you think advocating shooting people for alleged "treason" is all good clean fun, you're as sick as she is.

'Nuff said.

[rjamortega]

Originally posted by azov
Goofy humor designed to crack us up on the right . . .

Just like Hitler's jests in 1920s Germany . . .

If you think advocating shooting people for alleged "treason" is all good clean fun, you're as sick as she is.

'Nuff said.
Do you ever think within the realm of reality? This is exactly why I don't go out of my way to catch anything Coulter is doing. Her style drives liberals to the most outrageous and bizarre condition. And when you go into this frenzied state, it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you.

[Simon666]

Originally posted by rjamortega
Do you ever think within the realm of reality? This is exactly why I don't go out of my way to catch anything Coulter is doing. Her style drives liberals to the most outrageous and bizarre condition. And when you go into this frenzied state, it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you.
If all she does is make outrageous blatantly false statements and propaganda, there is simply nothing intelligent to argument about.

[Missouri Mule]

Coulter is a master of hyperbole. Hitler was serious.

[Simon666]

Anne Coulter is serious as well. She says herself.

[Ronnieraygun]

Originally posted by Simon666
Anne Coulter is serious as well. She says herself.


Where I agree with your statement Simon, I have to point out that Coulter is only writing books. Hitler ran a country. I don't think Ann Coulter will ever have to worry about finding herself in a similar situation. Right now, she's just where she belongs...Fodder for political forums like this one. You either choose to buy her books or not...It's that simple.

Marie, I'm in agreement with you to a point. Where I tend to agree with Ann Coulter on very FEW points, I find most of her diatribe wreckless and irresponsible. 180 degrees in the other direction from the mainstream press. Which isn't a good thing either.

No, IS...That's not the definition of BALANCE..Sorry.:(

[Jray573]

How many morons can share their opinions about Ann Coulter?

Simon, all satire has a serious point, that doesn't mean the example is literal. It's made humorous as a different way of looking at politics. You all should write books about UFO's, you all are a little to into this conspiracy thing.

I read her book just to see what she had to say and I found it quite humorous, with a great point to go along with it. If you see her as an extremist moron you are missing the entire point of her book, and you need to go look into the definition of satire. She offers more sources for her information then any liberal book I have ever seen. She is well thought out, and well informed. If you find her unintelligent you must be some kind of Einstein. Observing the posts from this thread though, that would seem quite impossible.

Maybe some of you are best fit reading books that end with, "For Dummies".

[Missouri Mule]

Very well stated. Ann Coulter says things that have crossed many minds and he has the gumption to state them and watch the literalists fall into her traps and she laughs all the way to the bank.

[Simon666]

Originally posted by Jray573
Simon, all satire has a serious point, that doesn't mean the example is literal. It's made humorous as a different way of looking at politics. You all should write books about UFO's, you all are a little to into this conspiracy thing.

I read her book just to see what she had to say and I found it quite humorous, with a great point to go along with it. If you see her as an extremist moron you are missing the entire point of her book, and you need to go look into the definition of satire. She offers more sources for her information then any liberal book I have ever seen. She is well thought out, and well informed. If you find her unintelligent you must be some kind of Einstein. Observing the posts from this thread though, that would seem quite impossible.

Maybe some of you are best fit reading books that end with, "For Dummies".
Well, if you want humor and satire that is well researched then go read this (http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm). The veracity is about the same as Anne Coulter's writings. Giving many references is no guarantee for something being well researched, if you use selective quoting, ripping out of context or dubious sources you can "prove" anything you want. An example to "prove" women do not deserve equal rights because the implications are horrendous:
Originally posted by Jray573 (http://www.whistlestopper.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=42786#post42786)
This task was easy due to the fact that the feminist movement had just started and people would blindly grab onto beliefs with the label "equal rights" no matter how horrendous they may be.

[Jray573]

That's a fairly poor example, since even taken out of the abortion debate it is a true statement. This is true of just about any group who has compassionate followers, the liberal perspective possibly needed to understand this is how the religious view things when they seem less then logical. Not to say there isn't a logical reason for the beliefs that they hold, just that some lack the logical thought process to defend their stance.

With the equal rights movements, many people threw in ideas that were not well thought out, but they were spread about and gained popularity due to the blindness of mob mentality. Now people hold onto issues for dear life, seriously believing that they are equal rights issues, even though the definition of equal rights differs greatly from their policies. To assume anything else in todays liberal society makes you a racist or sexist, even if you have logical and more thought out ideas to introduce.


However, I see what you are trying to imply. So, as for Ann Coulter, read her book, I think you will find that she doesn't prove her points in ways like that. She uses liberal news sources to prove a bias that many deny, but it isn't so much of using quotes out of context.

[Simon666]

Originally posted by Jray573
That's a fairly poor example, since even taken out of the abortion debate it is a true statement. This is true of just about any group who has compassionate followers, the liberal perspective possibly needed to understand this is how the religious view things when they seem less then logical. Not to say there isn't a logical reason for the beliefs that they hold, just that some lack the logical thought process to defend their stance.

With the equal rights movements, many people threw in ideas that were not well thought out, but they were spread about and gained popularity due to the blindness of mob mentality. Now people hold onto issues for dear life, seriously believing that they are equal rights issues, even though the definition of equal rights differs greatly from their policies. To assume anything else in todays liberal society makes you a racist or sexist, even if you have logical and more thought out ideas to introduce.
Well, you already said you understand my point, but I would like to say it explicitly once: you can "prove" anything you want by using selectiv quoting and selective referencing.
Originally posted by Jray573
However, I see what you are trying to imply. So, as for Ann Coulter, read her book, I think you will find that she doesn't prove her points in ways like that. She uses liberal news sources to prove a bias that many deny, but it isn't so much of using quotes out of context.
As MM already said she is crying all the way to the bank, I'm not going to do her that pleasure. The interview she did for a Belgian magazine about her book was already enough "anti-teaser" to decide NOT to buy her book.

[Jray573]

In the end it all comes down to perspective. Which is what editorialists are selling when they decide to write a book. I don't think anyone should judge a point by just one book or one person. Everyone needs to question their own beliefs and maximize their perspective.

[Paladin]

The interview she did for a Belgian magazine about her book was already enough "anti-teaser" to decide NOT to buy her book.

Big mistake, but not too late to correct it.

Coulter's book, SLANDER --- well i don't want to over-state it, but it is frankly the best political book in the history of the world.

[Simon666]

Maybe in your isolated part of the world populated by conservatives and fairies.

[Jray573]

heh :p I wouldn't call it the best. It was interesting. If you can acknowledge that all news sources are biased it may even be slightly outdated already. It's worth the read, but it won't be sitting on any long term reading list.

For hardcore Ann Coulter fans, she has her own website :p www.anncoulter.org which is also posted at townhall.com (www.townhall.com)

She also writes for Human Events Online (www.humaneventsonline.com) which is an awesome website in itself.

[rjamortega]

Originally posted by Simon666
Maybe in your isolated part of the world populated by conservatives and fairies.
:mad: HEYYYY! I resemble that remark. So what does that make me? A conservative? Or a fairy?:mad: :confused:

[Missouri Mule]

"Maybe in your isolated part of the world populated by conservatives and fairies."

Let's knock off the insults, implied or otherwise. And I mean it.

[Simon666]

That is not an insult. It is taking the claim that SLANDER is the best political book in the history of the world with enough grains of salt to fill an economically viable saltmine.

[Jray573]

Some of you can be quite quick to judge. I think if you would read her book you are making her out to be more then she is. It's a great book that shares an awesome point that biased does not mean conservative. It comes from both sides and Fox News is actually less biased then the rest of them. This is due to the fact that they regularly represent both sides on their opinion shows. The others do not.

The truth is, all news sources are biased. Every single one of them. Not just Americas, everyones. Everyone has an agenda.

It doesn't compare to Micheal Moore at all. She doesn't make up **** like the KKK founded the NRA or anything. She is just exposing liberal bias in the news and book publishing companies. She comes well informed and well prepared.

[Essendon]

To be fair to Michael Moore he didn't actaully say the KKK founded the NRA he just made a funny comment in his movie about how they might of been working together. And it wasn't him who said it, it was the cartoon narrator!:D

Here is a quote of what the cartoon narrator said: (keep in mind this cartoon in his movie was full of sarcasm and jokes)

"In 1871, the same year the Klan (KKK) became an illegal terrorist organisation, another group was founded, the National Rifle Association.

Soon politicians passed on of the first gun laws, making it illegal for any black person to own one.

It was a great year for America, the KKK, and the NRA. Of course they had nothing to do with each other and this was just a coincidence. One group legally promoted responsible gun ownership and the other one shot and lynched black people."

**shot of the NRA hanging black people when the narrator says "the other one shot and lynched black people"**

Back on topic I've read of some of Anne Coulter's stuff on the internet and she does seem like a complete retard/moron/insert your choice of word here kind of person.

[ScummyD]

Does anybody here actually have some support for the claimed leveled in the title of the thread? Besides rank opinion that is.

[treat2]

Actually, I prefer to think of Anne Coulter as a Republican Slut, that needs a good spanking!

[rjamortega]

^ :lol: .........(?)...I'll help with that!:D

[Paladin]

I know what the problem is that libs have with Ann Coulter.

I've even heard them call her Ann The Man.

Now obviously she doesn't look like a man -- evidence the last two posts.
And she doesn't dress like a man --- as say Paula Poundstone or Ellen DeGeneres.

Their problem with Ann Coulter --- She THINKS like a man.
She's sharp minded, tough, and inciteful.
Just exactly what libs never understand, and ESPECIALLY female libs.
They never get Coulter because her mind is so clear and sharp.
And she THINKS instead of FEELS.
Well i just FEEL we should be more kind to our enemies


Exactly the same thing can be said about the other woman libs love to hate --- Dr. Laura.

I don't care what you FEEL about the worthless slug who is cheating on you and beating the kids!
What do you THINK?

[rjamortega]

Originally posted by Paladin
...Now obviously she doesn't look like a man -- evidence the last two posts.
And she doesn't dress like a man --- as say Paula Poundstone or Ellen DeGeneres. ...
...or Hilary Clinton.:D

[green lantern]

like her, hate her, whatever. what she does keeps the money rolling in for her. how stupid can you possibly be if you have found a way to make a buck and spout your beliefs in a way that makes people want to buy your books?

[Missouri Mule]

And she definitely doesn't look like a man!

[KG20]

Originally posted by Missouri Mule
And she definitely doesn't look like a man!

Well then you must be looking at a different Ann Coulter, have you seen that man's neck? She is very manly, and very unattractive.

I don't know if she'll ever find someone if she isn't married:

Unattractive
Liar
Exaggerates (a lot)
Control Freak
Very Annoying
and did I say...unattractive

[Missouri Mule]

You are trivializing the discussion and you need to have your eyes checked. I saw her on TV just last night.

[rjamortega]

Originally posted by KG20
Well then you must be looking at a different Ann Coulter, have you seen that man's neck? She is very manly, and very unattractive.

I don't know if she'll ever find someone if she isn't married:

Unattractive
Liar
Exaggerates (a lot)
Control Freak
Very Annoying
and did I say...unattractive
Ha! Very good KG. But you know, I'm not much to look at either so I must keep it realistic. And I do love long necks. But Ann is not my type. Laura Ingraham gets my blood going.

But who are the hotties on the Left??? I think Christina vanDuhouvel (spl) is sexy but that constant scowl is so horrific. That may be the problem with the women of the Left. So filled with hate and rage their faces are grotesquely distorted.:)

[Missouri Mule]

VanHouval is nice. She is always civil but has strong views.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by green lantern
like her, hate her, whatever. what she does keeps the money rolling in for her. how stupid can you possibly be if you have found a way to make a buck and spout your beliefs in a way that makes people want to buy your books?
God bless the American's stupidity for a buck!

[San Antonio]

I don't think Coulter is stupid. I think she is lonely and crying out for attention. That's why she writes the assinine things she does. Just to get attention...

[Jray573]

San Antonio, which one of her books did you find asinine, and were there any particular points that stuck out?

[Voice Of Reason]

Ann Coulter is laughing all the way to the Bank...............More power to her.............:)

[Earl Grey]

I own 'Treason'. I bought it as a goof and ended up enjoying it a lot. First of all, she's an excellent writer and her prose is hysterically engaging. Secondly, she's a meticulous researcher and her opinions are more often substantiated by fact than not. I disagree with her on some things like abortion and gay rights, but that's okay. She knows her audience and how to write for them. I don't even take much issue with the quotations at the beginning of this post intended to raise the ire of the left-leaning casual reader, most of it's true, and there's a lot of pandering to the US's enemies on the part of the Left. Anyone who's attended a private University knows this, even if they don't want to admit it. Liberals will trip over themselves to defend, say, a professor of Middle Eastern studies indicted for funneling cash to al-Qaeda sympathizers. Or history professors who muse aloud to roomsful of teenagers that the wrong side won the Cold War.

There's pandering to enemies of American principles on the Right, too, but criticism of those people finds a much broader audience in media outlets.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Voice Of Reason
Ann Coulter is laughing all the way to the Bank...............More power to her.............:)
Ditto, except for the last phrase.

[Jray573]

I'm still wondering how many of those who insult her have read her book. No one seems to even imply that they did, just that they believe she is an extremist conservative.

I didn't think Al Franken's book was very interesting. I thought it lacked intelligence and depth, but I read his book to find that out. His whole argument over Ann Coulter was that she was stupid because she claimed to know him. He wrote an entire chapter based on that one comment. I believe he made two chapters dedicated to her.

[Voice Of Reason]

Originally posted by DRMIZER
Ditto, except for the last phrase.

Of course you did not have the same opinion on Hillary's book......

[ScummyD]

Come on people we have to keep this worthy thread alive.

I mean Coulter is a dunce, don't mind her law degree, or that she was named one of the top one hundred public intellectuals by federal judge Richard Posner in 2001.

Originally posted by Jray573
I'm still wondering how many of those who insult her have read her book.
Which one?

[Jray573]

Any of them.

I challenge anyone who read her book to confront the issues. Instead of making ignorant blanket statements that she is a moron.

[ScummyD]

The silence is rather deafening isn't it.

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Voice Of Reason
Of course you did not have the same opinion on Hillary's book...... No I didn't. Hillary is brilliant! ;)

[DRMIZER]

Originally posted by Jray573
Any of them.

I challenge anyone who read her book to confront the issues. Instead of making ignorant blanket statements that she is a moron. No, she's not a moron. She's a far right-wing commentator who is two bricks shy of a load.:thinking:

[Jray573]

why?

[Voice Of Reason]

None of them have even read her book........

[Jray573]

shh.... pretend you don't know that ;)

[ScummyD]

Originally posted by Jray573
why?
Yes why?

Well we are waiting???

I know this thread is popping up in people's subscriber windows so where the hell are all the people claiming Coulter to be stupid???

[Jray573]

haha, never underestimate the power of that one word question :p

Socrates was put to death for corrupting the minds of the youth. Amazingly, the children were frustrating their parents by asking that one question. "Why?"

Sadly, we have moved back into a society which feels that that question does not warrant an answer.