International Dissent From Darwin

[sub_zer0]

Interestingly enough, Seattle, West Seattle is where I live!

Finally a challenge to the dogma that is evolution. Just thought some would be interested!

The list of 610 signatories includes member scientists from National Academies of Science in Russia, Czech Republic, Hungary, India (Hindustan), Nigeria, Poland, Russia and the United States. Many of the signers are professors or researchers at major universities and international research institutions such as Cambridge University, British Museum of Natural History, Moscow State University, Masaryk University in Czech Republic, Hong Kong University, University of Turku in Finland, Autonomous University of Guadalajara in Mexico, University of Stellenbosch in South Africa, Institut de Paléontologie Humaine in France, Chitose Institute of Science & Technology in Japan, Ben-Gurion University in Israel, MIT, The Smithsonian and Princeton.

SOURCE (http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/06/dissent_from_darwinism_goes_gl.html#more)

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[towski]

Interestingly enough, Seattle, West Seattle is where I live!

Finally a challenge to the dogma that is evolution. Just thought some would be interested!



CLICK HERE (http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=3622&program=DI%20Main%20Page%20-%20News&callingPage=discoMainPage)

For perspective, 12% of 600 scientists is 72. A 40% growth in the last four months is 28 scientists.

[sub_zer0]

For perspective, 12% of 600 scientists is 72. A 40% growth in the last four months is 28 scientists.

I know it's great, it takes time to reverse thinking that has been drilled into our brains as fact for the past 100 years. Not only that but its "doctoral scientists".

[sub_zer0]

Since 2001 to 2006 (Feb.) there were 500 signed.

Since Feb. 2006 to June 21, 2006 there has been over 100 more (give or take a few)!

Total since Feb. 2006 (4 months) = 100

I like it!

[JoeR]

This is the statement they signed

"We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”


That's just encouraging good science. If it can't stand it shouldn't. So far it has stood strong.



“I signed the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism statement, because I am absolutely convinced of the lack of true scientific evidence in favour of Darwinian dogma,” said Raul Leguizamon, M. D., Pathologist

A pathologist is surely an expert on this sort of thing.

[sub_zer0]

This is the statement they signed

"We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”


That's just encouraging good science. If it can't stand it shouldn't. So far it has stood strong.

Umm, not it hasn't that is why they are signing it.

[JoeR]

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA111_1.html

"Compared with all the scientists who accept evolution, 400 scientists is a minuscule amount. The National Center for Science Education has compiled, as a parody of lists such as that from the Discovery Institute, a list of more than 500 scientists all named Steve, or with variants of that name, who support evolution (NCSE 2003). There are only five Steves on the DI's list of 400."


The numbers are out of date, but the point is still valid.

Also how many of these scientists are actually in the biological sciences? How many of their objections are based on science and not religious dogma? How many of them are actually anti-evoluiton, seeing as how even someone supporting it could sign that statement.

[sub_zer0]

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA111_1.html

Compared with all the scientists who accept evolution, 400 scientists is a minuscule amount. The National Center for Science Education has compiled, as a parody of lists such as that from the Discovery Institute, a list of more than 500 scientists all named Steve, or with variants of that name, who support evolution (NCSE 2003). There are only five Steves on the DI's list of 400.


The numbers are out of date, but the point is still valid.

Your point is kind of valid. You have backing you, 100 years of proclaiming evolution as fact. The inroads being made are effective and are noticeable.

[JoeR]

Here's what one guy who had joined the Discovery Institutes list but later changed his mind had to say.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002450329_danny24.html

Davidson says he was seeking a place where people "believe in a Creator and also believe in science.

"I thought it was refreshing," he says.

Not anymore. He's concluded the institute is an affront to both science and religion.

"When I joined I didn't think they were about bashing evolution. It's pseudo-science, at best ... What they're doing is instigating a conflict between science and religion."

...

"I'm kind of embarrassed that I ever got involved with this," Davidson says.

He was shocked, he says, when he saw the Discovery Institute was calling evolution a "theory in crisis."

"It's laughable: There have been millions of experiments over more than a century that support evolution," he says. "There's always questions being asked about parts of the theory, as there are with any theory, but there's no real scientific controversy about it."

[Sauniere]

This is the renowned anti-evolutionary website.
You will go to your craven grave discounting evolution and Darwinian Theory; but you will be wrong every step of the way and a thousand million posts here will never convince you otherwise. Thus to debate you on this matter is the ultimate, absolute waste of time because you are entrenched in your dogma and shall never recant.
That’s all I shall say here because every single word falls upon deaf ears.

Good Day to you and your Dark Ages opinions… :)

[JoeR]

Thus to debate you on this matter is the ultimate, absolute waste of time because you are entrenched in your dogma and shall never recant.

Gotta do something during commercial breaks.

[sub_zer0]

This is the renowned anti-evolutionary website.
You will go to your craven grave discounting evolution and Darwinian Theory; but you will be wrong every step of the way and a thousand million posts here will never convince you otherwise. Thus to debate you on this matter is the ultimate, absolute waste of time because you are entrenched in your dogma and shall never recant.
That’s all I shall say here because every single word falls upon deaf ears.

Good Day to you and your Dark Ages opinions… :)

I'm sorry I believe in the word of God as truth and cannot debate about it and actually hold that view.

[Art of War]

Your point is kind of valid. You have backing you, 100 years of proclaiming evolution as fact. The inroads being made are effective and are noticeable.


Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! don't you have thousands of years of claiming intelligent design at your back? Talk about inroads religious indoctrination is the biggest inroad.

[sub_zer0]

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! don't you have thousands of years of claiming intelligent design at your back? Talk about inroads religious indoctrination is the biggest inroad.

It was never taught to our kids at school as fact however.

[brainpan]

Here's what one guy who had joined the Discovery Institutes list but later changed his mind had to say.

"When I joined I didn't think they were about bashing evolution. It's pseudo-science, at best ... What they're doing is instigating a conflict between science and religion...I'm kind of embarrassed that I ever got involved with this," Davidson says.Ouch. More proof of the deceptive tactics of Discovery Institute. Kinda' makes you wonder how many of the scientists really understood the intent of the statement they signed? :o

[JoeR]

It was never taught to our kids at school as fact however.

Gosh darn that Establishment Clause.

[Dangerrmouse]

It was never taught to our kids at school as fact however.

That role has been taken by the churches for a thousand years.

[steveksux]

It was never taught to our kids at school as fact however.It was never a fact in the first place.

However it seems pretty stupid to claim evolution has had some sort of head start over the last 100 years in "indoctrination" when Christians have been pushing creationism for a couple thousand years. Looks like its the Christians that have been doing the indoctrinating.

Well, to anyone looking at the situation honestly.

Christians have a 1800 year head start of indoctrination of their "theory", and it gets nearly wiped out by a relatively brand new theory of evolution. Must be something seriously wrong with the basis of creationism for it to fold like a house of cards with so little effort. Evolution must be clearly superior, have an overwhelming weight of evidence going for it.

Randy

[JoeR]

It's just the devil gaining strength.

[brainpan]

It's just the devil gaining strength.With the assistance of minions like you and SteveSux Randy!

I know you were just being funny, but heel and sub have stated repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a vast conspiracy to deceive people away from God. Kinda' hard to lampoon something as absurd as that. Trying to out absurd the ultimately absurd.

[Democritus]

I'm sorry I believe in the word of God as truth and cannot debate about it and actually hold that view.

Then why are you here? Why do you bother bringing it up? You're hoping to convince us but you have no evidence with which to do so (except the bible). So you come on here, repeating yourself, pretty much just looking foolish. Every time someone offers evidence to the contrary, you simply ignore it or discount it. Are you here for anything other than a poor attempt at proseltyzing?

[Lumpen Prole]

THE HOLOCAUST IS A MYTH!!

































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[Art of War]

It was never taught to our kids at school as fact however.

School? HA! Kids attending school long enough to learn evolutionary theory has only been commonplace for about 50 years now. Religious indoctrination has existed for hundreds.