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Missouri Mule
11-09-2003, 10:09 AM
This is as good an explanation of the true psychopath I have seen.
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The News Tribune - Tacoma, WA Sunday, November 9, 2003

What made Ridgway kill still a riddle
SEAN ROBINSON; The News Tribune

Forty years ago, a 6-year-old boy in a cowboy hat asked Gary Ridgway a question:

"Why did you kill me?"


Blood streamed from a stab wound in the boy's side and ran into his cowboy boots.


Ridgway, a teenager then, did not answer immediately. He stood with the knife in his hand and laughed. Then he wiped both sides of the blade on the boy's shirt.


"I always wanted to know what it felt like to kill somebody," he said.


Years later, the boy remembered Ridgway walking away, "kinda puttin' his head in the air, you know, and laughin' real loud."


The boy survived. He spent several weeks in the hospital. The incision to repair his liver was about a foot long.


Eventually he moved from King County to California. A King County sheriff's detective found him there earlier this year.


The story of the stabbing appears in the 133-page summary of evidence submitted Wednesday by King County prosecutors, underlining Ridgway's admission to 48 murders, unmasking the Green River Killer.


Decades after the stabbing, the boy's question echoes across the years, in the voices of the families of Ridgway's victims.


Why did Ridgway kill? In the prosecutor's summary, investigators openly say they have no answer. During a news conference Thursday, Sheriff Dave Reichert, who chased Ridgway for 21 years, heard the same question, and replied the only way he could:


"Because he wanted to," Reichert said.


During one of Ridgway's many interviews with investigators and prosecutors over the past several months, a forensic psychologist asked whether something was missing in him that was present in other people.


"Caring," the killer replied.


Ridgway told investigators he never thought about how victims felt while he was killing them. He did not want to see their faces. To him, they were not people.


Investigators trying to retrace his murderous steps after 20 years showed him photographs of victims. Generally Ridgway claimed not to recognize them.


"The women's faces don't ... mean anything to me," he said.


Ridgway's profound lack of empathy for others fits the definition of a psychopath, said Dr. Peter Roy-Byrne, chief of psychology at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle.


"They have no sense of what another person might go through," he said. "They are what psychoanalysis calls 'malignant narcissists.' They are so preoccupied, they are impervious to considering another individual except as a tool to meet their own needs."


While psychopaths care little for the needs of others, they know social rules exist, said Michelle Rosell, a professor of psychology at Pacific Lutheran University.


"They know what society expects from them, and they just don't care," she said. "They can work well within society's structures. In fact, a lot of times they say people who are antisocial can be quite charming. They can say and do the right things, but they do it for their benefit."


Ridgway knew how to gain his victims' trust. Court documents describe the tactics he used to make them feel comfortable. He flashed his wallet and showed a picture of his young son. When he brought a victim to the house near Sea-Tac Airport where he killed dozens of women, he showed them his son's room, and toys scattered across the floor.


"They look in the bedrooms, nobody's in there," he told investigators. "There's my son's room, hey, this guy has a son, he's not gonna hurt anybody."


In interviews, Ridgway was asked to rate his own evil. Given a scale of 1 to 5, he answered "3," and pointed out that he did not torture his victims.


Once they were dead, the victims became his possessions, Ridgway said - "a beautiful person that was my property."


In his 1997 book, "Signature Killers," Robert Keppel, a consultant on the Green River Task Force and a serial killer expert who once hunted Ted Bundy, describes the behavior of "signature killers" as "a total series of decisions directed exclusively toward self-indulgence."


"The murders themselves are acts representing the absolute of selfishness in its purest, most refined form," Keppel wrote.


Ridgway's self-indulgence sometimes reached the point where he had to resist thoughts of killing family members, he told investigators.


In July 1982, he picked up one victim while his 7-year-old son rode with him in his truck. Ridgway drove to a wooded area and parked. He got out with the woman, left his son inside, told him to wait and walked to an area where the boy could not see.


When he returned after killing the woman, the boy asked where she had gone. Ridgway replied that she decided to walk home.


In 2003, Ridgway told a psychologist he felt "a little bit of remorse" about killing the woman while his son was nearby...

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http://www.tribnet.com/news/story/4359186p-4367503c.html

Blueangel
11-09-2003, 05:41 PM
I believe him to be a true Sociopath.
Even a psychopath can experience a degree of caring.

Case in point...
The Krays were devoted to their mother yet they were psychopaths.
I'd be curious to know more of his relationship with his son.

KWJams
11-10-2003, 01:44 AM
I was listening to a radio interview with an FBI Profiler last night and that question came up and the answer was that Ridgway felt that he would have killed his own son to protect himself from being caught.
Nice Dad eh! :(

Diogenes
11-10-2003, 02:15 AM
[quote]"I always wanted to know what it felt like to kill somebody," he said.[quote]

We had a character like that in my neck of the woods a few years ago. The hooker serviced him, and was topless, on her knees on an icy country road in the middle of the winter, begging for her life when he shot her. He explained to his partner that he wanted to break all ten commandments. The state courts sentenced him to death, but they were overruled by the 9th Circus Court in California so he is still eating on my nickel.

Missouri Mule
11-10-2003, 04:29 PM
He said he was very good at strangling these women.

DRMIZER
11-11-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Blueangel
I believe him to be a true Sociopath.
Even a psychopath can experience a degree of caring.

Case in point...
The Krays were devoted to their mother yet they were psychopaths.
I'd be curious to know more of his relationship with his son.

Without knowing more, I think you are correct in your belief. To put on a label, the correct diagnosis (DDX) is borderline personality disorder.

JLwH211
11-13-2003, 05:10 PM
Ridgway isn't the first serial killer to say that, and he definitely won't be the last. A few years ago (I know a lot has changed) the FBI released some statistics stating that at any given time there are at least 12 active serial killers in the US. Scary thought.

Bundy also manipulated his victims by pretending to be injured.

Henry Lee Lucas' first victim was his mother, after killing her, had sex with her corpse. His last known victim was his 15 year old fiance who he dismembered and buried her various body parts around a field in Texas.

Richard Ramirez (The Night Stalker) really had no preference in his victims, and often mutilated their bodies afterward. One elderly couple he killed, he gouged out the woman's eyes and kept them in a jewerly box as a souvenir.

And the list goes on and on. Serial killers often have no remorse for those they killed, sometimes even go as far as trying to justify their actions by saying that they were doing God's work or Satan's work. That the people they killed deserved to die.