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GI Joe
07-31-2007, 10:19 PM
(Guantanamo Bay, Cuba) A 38-year-old terrorism detainee, Ahmed Belbacha, has filed an emergency (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2169795.ece) motion to the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., asking that he not be released.


Zachary Katznelson, senior counsel with the human rights lawyers Reprieve and Mr Belbacha's lawyer, has asked the US courts to block any transfer.

"Ahmed is being held in camp six, the harshest part of Guantanamo," he said. "His cell is all steel, there are no windows, he is not allowed to communicate with other prisoners and he gets just two hours exercise each day in a metal cage."

"He says his cell in Guantanamo is like a grave and that although it sounds crazy he would rather stay in those conditions than go back to Algeria. The fact is that he is really, really scared about what might happen to him in Algeria."


Belbacha fears that the government will torture him or the Islamists will murder him. So, continuing to breath in a cold cell is preferable. I'm not surprised. (http://interested-participant.blogspot.com/)

The Belbacha case complicates the efforts of the leftist human-rights outragees. It's much harder to convince the court that Gitmo is a torturous, inhumane hell-hole when inmates beg to stay.
bowerbird
07-31-2007, 10:39 PM
So what have the guard convinced him will happen to him when he gets home? I am not joking with this question. Mandoub Habib was told his wife and children were taken hostage and were killed.
GI Joe
07-31-2007, 10:45 PM
So what have the guard convinced him will happen to him when he gets home? I am not joking with this question. Mandoub Habib was told his wife and children were taken hostage and were killed.


I dont know, do you? How do you know Habib was told this, because he says so:lol: :lol: What has his lawyer from Human Rights Lawyers told him?
Riddley
07-31-2007, 11:16 PM
The guy fled from Algeria to England because he felt threatened. Being alive in cell is better than being dead in his former homeland. this will surprise those of us willing to die for god- knows- what but some here will understand that he has chosen the lesser of two evils, to him.
Why won't the UK let him stay there? Why won't the US return him to Pakistan where he was picked up since it appears that they are not going to charge him with anything?
Camera I
08-01-2007, 01:35 AM
If the original article is correct he wasn't allowed asylum because he missed his immigration hearing due to being confined at Gitmo? And now is being given the option of being sent back to certain death in Algeria because of his initial arrest and imprisonment?

Somehow I don't think this article says what you think it says regarding conditions there.
GI Joe
08-01-2007, 01:40 AM
If the original article is correct he wasn't allowed asylum because he missed his immigration hearing due to being confined at Gitmo? And now is being given the option of being sent back to certain death in Algeria because of his initial arrest and imprisonment?

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He decided to go to Jihadi school instead of staying in the UK
Camera I
08-01-2007, 01:44 AM
He decided to go to Jihadi school instead of staying in the UK

Because going overseas for religious study is the same as "Jihadi school". :rolleyes:
Riddley
08-01-2007, 01:46 AM
He decided to go to Jihadi school instead of staying in the UK
You know something neither of your two articles know, then. Unless you're doing that "They're all the same" routine again.
GI Joe
08-01-2007, 02:21 AM
Because going overseas for religious study is the same as "Jihadi school". :rolleyes:

Gee, Pakistani madrassas are known for their liberal schooling which is why he also crossed over to Afghanistan to check out the liberal schooling opportunities there
GI Joe
08-01-2007, 02:22 AM
You know something neither of your two articles know, then. Unless you're doing that "They're all the same" routine again.

see #9
Riddley
08-01-2007, 02:34 AM
Gee, Pakistani madrassas are known for their liberal schooling which is why he also crossed over to Afghanistan to check out the liberal schooling opportunities there

He was caught in a madrassa? He was a trained jihadi? Why are they letting him go? Must that danged evidence stuff again.
Camera I
08-01-2007, 03:31 AM
Gee, Pakistani madrassas are known for their liberal schooling which is why he also crossed over to Afghanistan to check out the liberal schooling opportunities there

If he was a trained "Jihadi" then why was he released? What special information are you privy to that our own military must be missing....
GI Joe
08-01-2007, 03:49 AM
If he was a trained "Jihadi" then why was he released? What special information are you privy to that our own military must be missing....

He isnt released
Camera I
08-01-2007, 04:59 AM
He isnt released

The original plan was to release him back to Algeria.

“Even though the Americans say he poses no threat, Ahmed fears that he has the stamp of Guantanamo Bay on him and he will be treated by the authorities as a terrorist if he is returned to Algeria.

So what crime did he commit apart from being in Afghanistan?
Eddie
08-01-2007, 05:21 AM
Oh, so Gitmo is to be viewed as a humanitarian effort because people who has been held in the facilities are in the risk for being killed by authorties simply becuase the stigma attched to be held in Gitmo? Brilliant! :lol: