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coberst
11-01-2007, 07:26 AM
What moral attitude should we take toward Globalism?

From the American workers view the positive side of Globalism is that many workers worldwide in very poor countries will experience a significant increase in their standard of living because the manufacturing of certain products that were manufactured in America are manufactured in their country.

From the American workers view the negative side of Globalism is that the standard of living of many Americans will decline significantly because of the work that has gone to poor countries.

From the American capital owning and financial brokerage view Globalism is the best thing since sliced bread.

What moral judgment should all Americans take toward Globalism? I have no answers to this very difficult question. This is the type of question that leads some people, like me, to duck their moral principles.

I suspect that Americans with capital will reap great advantage from Globalism but working Americans will be net losers. The workers and the capital owning citizens in poor countries will be large net winners.

Groucho
11-01-2007, 11:08 AM
What does this have to do with religion?

Ethos
11-01-2007, 12:03 PM
What does this have to do with religion?

To be fair, it isn't simply a religion forum.

In any case, the problem with globalism is the term itself is deceptive. Exploiting the benefits of foreign labor and markets for domestic gain is hardly what I could consider a "global" initiative.

Ethos

Turenne
11-01-2007, 01:11 PM
Throwing unfounded terms like 'exploitation' around doesn't exactly help either.

Ethos
11-01-2007, 01:17 PM
Throwing unfounded terms like 'exploitation' around doesn't exactly help either.

What term would you prefer I use for the utilization of underpaid third-world labor for purposes of increased profits?

Perhaps now you will tell us we should find another word for "underpaid" because it is somehow "unfounded"?

Ethos

Demon of Light
11-01-2007, 01:45 PM
On an economic level I don't think there's really any moral issue, however some use certain standards in other countries to severely limit the rights of their workers.

On a political level I think it depends entirely on how it's done. I don't think the way globalism is being done on a political scale is very moral at all.

Ethos
11-01-2007, 01:50 PM
On a political level I think it depends entirely on how it's done. I don't think the way globalism is being done on a political scale is very moral at all.

I'm not sure I understand your meaning in the way you intend it. Would you mind expanding on this idea?

coberst
11-01-2007, 02:32 PM
What is globalism & globalization?

http://www.theglobalist.com/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=2392

Joe Nye, former Dean of Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government, informs us: Globalism describes the existence of various forms of networks that interconnect multi-continental distances while globalization describes the degree of globalism. In short, Nye considers “Globalism as the underlying basic network, while globalization refers to the dynamic shrinking of distance on a large scale”… globalization is the process by which globalism becomes increasingly thick and/or intense.

There are four distinct dimensions of globalism: economic, which is the flow of goods and services; environmental, which is the effect upon the worlds environment and health; social, which is the flow of ideas and the effect of those ideas and ideologies upon the worlds cultures; and of course, there is the military dimension where power is displayed world wise by all cultures with such power.

Demon of Light
11-01-2007, 04:42 PM
I'm not sure I understand your meaning in the way you intend it. Would you mind expanding on this idea?

I'm referring mainly to the amount of strength being given to international groups and organizations that aren't actually accountable to voters and, in some of these organizations, apparently there's no intent to ever make them so.

NetxMan
11-01-2007, 04:53 PM
As I was explaining in another thread you simply cannot trade with other countries who don't follow the same rules as you do.

For moral reason and economic reasons.

Its like play a basketball game where all the normal rules apply to you but for every shot the other team makes they get 10 points. Almost impossible to win.

coberst
11-02-2007, 07:52 AM
I suspect that globalization will dramatically improve the standard of living world wide. But that will mean that we will eat our planet much faster than we do now. What are our chances of civilization lasting another 200 years under such pressure?