Cyber bullying: Technology and McLuhan

[coberst]

Cyber bullying: Technology and McLuhan

The cruel mob pursued 13 year old Megan Meier through our high tech “social networking site MySpace and called Megan a liar, a fat ***** and worse”.

McLuhan has stated that all technology is an extension of a human faculty. The ‘bomb is an extension of the fist’ is a simple example.

“The Medium is The Message” is the phrase that made Marshall McLuhan famous. It is a phrase most of us, young and old, have heard. Until recently this was a mysterious phrase that left me speechless.

Megan, 13, fought back, but she was overwhelmed.

Let’s get very fundamental here and go back to the invention of the alphabet to understand what McLuhan is talking about and why it is important.

“The Greek myth about the alphabet was that Cadmus, reputedly the king who introduced the phonetic letters into Greece, sowed dragoon’s teeth, and they sprang up armed men. Like any other myth, this one capsulates a prolonged process into a flashing insight. The alphabet meant power and authority and control of military structures at a distance. When combined with papyrus, the alphabet spelled the end of the stationary temple bureaucracies and the priestly monopolies of knowledge and power.”

“The phonetic alphabet is a unique technology…This stark division and parallelism between a visual and an auditory world was both crude and ruthless, culturally speaking. The phonetically written sacrifices worlds of meaning and perception that were secured by forms like the hieroglyphs and the Chinese ideogram. These culturally richer forms of writing, however, offered men no means of sudden transfer from the magically discontinuous and traditional world of the tribal word into the cool and uniform visual medium.”

“All of these forms [pictographic and hieroglyphic] give pictorial expression to oral meanings. As such, they approximate the animated cartoon and are extremely unwieldy, requiring many signs for the infinity of data operations of social action. In contrast, the phonetic alphabet, by a few letters only, was able to encompass all languages.”

“She felt there was no way out,” Ms. Meier said.

Consider the invention of the printing press and the introduction of books to the society. A book communicates a message. Many books communicate many messages. ‘The book’ communicates the same message to everyone who comes into contact with the book. The book transmits the same message to everyone while many books transmit many different messages to many different people.

Evolution moves very slowly. We adapt to our environment very slowly. We survive because we do adapt. When we change more quickly than we can adapt we face problems that we have not had the time to make the kind of adjustments necessary.

The habits we acquire determine our state of mind. Our changing habits are part of this process of adaptation to our environment. Do not think of environment as being just the quality of our air or water but it is a broad term signifying the world we live in.

So we have changed very dramatically our habits that were part of us when we knew little and understood much. I am speaking relatively here. What happens to us as a result of this dramatic change? I do not know but I only point to the fact as worth consideration.

Examine how we sit and watch TV for several hours everyday. When we watch TV we are constantly being transported perceptively from one scene to another. Think for a minute if instead of sitting and watching TV we were physically escorted done a hallway with many doors. Then we open a door and are physically placed into this world we see on TV. Our reaction would be very different. In other words we are creatures prepared for a certain world that no longer exists. This is the definition of a forthcoming extinction if we think about the meaning of evolution.

“Mom, they’re being horrible!” Megan said, “sobbing into the phone when her mother called. After an hour, Megan ran into her bedroom and hanged herself with a belt.”

Has our technology become our master? I think so.

This story about Megan by Christopher Maag, “When the Bullies Turned Faceless” was published in the December 17 edition of the NYTimes.



What did the little bird say to the big bird?

Peck on someone your own size.

[chris99]

This is a horrible story of bullying....however I don't think that technology is to blame here. Certainly the internet makes possible cyber bullying but bullying exists without the internet (perhaps the faceless nature of it makes it easier to bully....but then so does writing...I suppose the internet makes it easier)

On a somewhat related note, McLuhan's analysis on the effect media (whether a bomb, lightbulb or tv) has on our perception and actions is interesting but I think to this should also be added the analysis by those such as Noble, Poulantzas, Chomsky, etc. who note that technology is not made in a vacuum.

While technology certainly has inherent material properties it is created in an environment where some have more power than others, which influences the uses of it. This I find just as interesting as the effect of technology's inherent properties on us.

[SpringRain]

Sounds like Megan needed better parenting. I was bullied before the internet, my folks never said anything but ignore it, or maybe you deserve it.

Of course as I grew up and realized the amount of victimhood I was living because of such responses, decided to be better if my kids were bullied. Well, luck would have it, my daughter was bullied. She started school young, then got skipped a grade so she was quite a bit younger, particularly when compared to the boys who had been held back. They started nudging her with snotty remarks and she cried. Well that gave them their ammo. They started calling her a cry baby, and lo and behold it made her cry.

So once she told me about it, I said well, you are crying pretty easily over BS stuff. Lets do this, I'm gonna call you a cry baby on and off all weekend, and you're going to practice saying "yep, I am but I'm working on it." You're going to say it till you can say it with a cute and sassy smile on your face.

Well, first round went, "you're a little *****y crybaby" (no, I didn't pull my punch) and she went "sniff, sniff, bawl, sniff, cry, yes, sniff, I cry, sniff, bawl, I am but, sniff, cry, sniff a crybaby, sniff, bawl, bawl, but I am sniff, cry working on it. BAWL" But about 250 tries later, she was "YEP, I can be a crybaby, but y'know I'm working on it! Yee haw!" A week later she was playing basketball with those boys and they ended up being her best friends through to high school.

Better parenting, it works.

[eugene40]

Now I don't suffer bullies at all. I prefer them kissing the bottom of my shoe. I was bullied for a bit in High School, but that ended real quick when I stopped turning the other cheek and just whuped the guys arse.

However the concern I have about " cyber-bullying", which is a completely absurd name and idea. Bullying is bullying, no matter the medium. It is like most of those invented terms like "hate crimes". However the think that I didn't see is the turning off of myspace. Take the medium out of the equation and bam there you go, no more "cyber bullying"

Bullies only stop when they are faced with someone stronger than they are stands up to them. And I don't mean just physically but someone that will stand up to them and not let them get away with anything thing that they do.

Now faceless bullying provides a unique problem. How do you stand up to someone that doesn't show there face. The solution however is in the way they go about the bullying. If they are faceless that means they are too cowardly to show their face to back up their words. So my question would be why are you intimidated by someone that isn't brave enough to show their face?

But invariably with this type of bullying the easiest method of fighting back is to simply not log on. And if you must log on then organize your account so that only people that are your friends can leave messages, and don't open messages from people that you do not know.

[SpringRain]

Now I don't suffer bullies at all. I prefer them kissing the bottom of my shoe. I was bullied for a bit in High School, but that ended real quick when I stopped turning the other cheek and just whuped the guys arse.

However the concern I have about " cyber-bullying", which is a completely absurd name and idea. Bullying is bullying, no matter the medium. It is like most of those invented terms like "hate crimes". However the think that I didn't see is the turning off of myspace. Take the medium out of the equation and bam there you go, no more "cyber bullying"

Bullies only stop when they are faced with someone stronger than they are stands up to them. And I don't mean just physically but someone that will stand up to them and not let them get away with anything thing that they do.

Now faceless bullying provides a unique problem. How do you stand up to someone that doesn't show there face. The solution however is in the way they go about the bullying. If they are faceless that means they are too cowardly to show their face to back up their words. So my question would be why are you intimidated by someone that isn't brave enough to show their face?

But invariably with this type of bullying the easiest method of fighting back is to simply not log on. And if you must log on then organize your account so that only people that are your friends can leave messages, and don't open messages from people that you do not know.

Solving bullying with bullying isn't a solution I'd advocate. But it seems the way in the USA today. Disturbing to say the least. Seems bullies are that way because they lack intelligence, so why prove you're just like them.

[eugene40]

Solving bullying with bullying isn't a solution I'd advocate. But it seems the way in the USA today. Disturbing to say the least. Seems bullies are that way because they lack intelligence, so why prove you're just like them.


Where did I advocate bullying?

Now I don't suffer bullies at all. I prefer them kissing the bottom of my shoe. I was bullied for a bit in High School, but that ended real quick when I stopped turning the other cheek and just whuped the guys arse.

I stated that I turned the other cheek which I did. Then when that didn't work out I put the guy on the ground and my foot on his head and told him not to get up because it was just going to happen again. That is not bullying that is self defense.

Bullies only stop when they are faced with someone stronger than they are stands up to them. And I don't mean just physically but someone that will stand up to them and not let them get away with anything thing that they do.

Ghandi did this type of thing. He showed stength and he won. Just because you show someone that you are a stronger person doesn't mean you have to do it with your fist. (though I believe that it takes some of the fun out of it).

Now me personally I have dealt with a lot of bullies. I prided myself on beating the living hell out of them. And showing them for the cowards that they truly are. But I never became them, there is a huge difference between standing up to a bully and bullying in itself. And standing up to them, you can utitlize a number of things to do so. But your mind is the key to doing it. However, I personally believe that there is a point within yourself that if people cross it then hell yes you get physical with them. I have no problem with doing it, or advocating people doing it. And I have trained many a people to do this, just as long as it is done within reason.

[SpringRain]

Well, you sure sound like a proud bully to me.

[eugene40]

Well, you sure sound like a proud bully to me.

Just a person that stands up for himself and others. I am proud of that. And a person that understands that sometimes violence is the answer and I have no utlizing it.

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats."
H.L. Mencken

I am neither ashamed not upset of the people that I have felled to protect my self, and those who can not protect themselves.

Now is that bullying?

[NiteGuy]

Just a person that stands up for himself and others. I am proud of that. And a person that understands that sometimes violence is the answer and I have no utlizing it.

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats."
H.L. Mencken

I am neither ashamed not upset of the people that I have felled to protect my self, and those who can not protect themselves.

Now is that bullying?

Not in my book, Gene. Then again, you and I are a lot alike.

I too, had to deal with my share of bullying as a kid. But, I only had to actually defend myself against two bullies that took it to physical levels. Like SpringRain, I found a sharp, biting wit, and some humor dealt with most of them.

For the other two? Let's just say that having a drill instructor for a father, and a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do at the time, didn't hurt at all. :D

And the added benefit is, is that (usually) once you've shown that you won't back down to a physical bully, whether you win the fight or not, no other bully is likely to take you on. They only fight if they figure they're not going to get hurt in the process. If you hurt them any at all, in more than a superficial way, they find easier pickings.

[eugene40]

Not in my book, Gene. Then again, you and I are a lot alike.
We are a rare breed.

I too, had to deal with my share of bullying as a kid. But, I only had to actually defend myself against two bullies that took it to physical levels. Like SpringRain, I found a sharp, biting wit, and some humor dealt with most of them.

I too in the early years, but once kids got to know me they knew that I was not one to mess with. I too found that sharp wit and humor dealt with most, there is nothing that stops a bully in his tracks quicker then a sharp comment at hiss expense that he doesn't really understand.

For the other two? Let's just say that having a drill instructor for a father, and a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do at the time, didn't hurt at all. :D

It never does, but the kids that I have taught, I tell them that their skills are not invincible and not to be over confident in them. Trust in the skills that you hae prepared to deal with situations like this, but be ready when those skills are not going to hack it.

And the added benefit is, is that (usually) once you've shown that you won't back down to a physical bully, whether you win the fight or not, no other bully is likely to take you on. They only fight if they figure they're not going to get hurt in the process. If you hurt them any at all, in more than a superficial way, they find easier pickings.

The bullies that I usually dealt with and still deal with to this day. Are usually picking other weak people. And for me I just can't just sit there and let people be victimized by people that fancy themselves as predators. When in actuality most are just cowards. However that being said, getting physical is always a last resort.


What is your opinion on this cyber bullying phenomenon? I still think it is rather silly considering it is something that the victim has to partake in, in order to get bullied.

[GI Joe]

We are a rare breed.



I too in the early years, but once kids got to know me they knew that I was not one to mess with. I too found that sharp wit and humor dealt with most, there is nothing that stops a bully in his tracks quicker then a sharp comment at hiss expense that he doesn't really understand.



It never does, but the kids that I have taught, I tell them that their skills are not invincible and not to be over confident in them. Trust in the skills that you hae prepared to deal with situations like this, but be ready when those skills are not going to hack it.



The bullies that I usually dealt with and still deal with to this day. Are usually picking other weak people. And for me I just can't just sit there and let people be victimized by people that fancy themselves as predators. When in actuality most are just cowards. However that being said, getting physical is always a last resort.


What is your opinion on this cyber bullying phenomenon? I still think it is rather silly considering it is something that the victim has to partake in, in order to get bullied.

I bullied a kid once back in Jr High and I did not like the feeling and shame I felt by my actions so I never did it again.

That said I will take revenge against those who have wronged me or someone I care for with malicous intent. If it was an accident or no malice intended then I wont hit back. I have many tequniques that range from irritation to life destroying that I can employ via multiple avenues including cyber attacks

If someone screws me with malice I will make sure he is paid back. If there is no malice intended then I let it be. God help someone who intentionally tries to screw me. This stuff should only be done to the genuinely deserving, the real *******s. Its not cool to do this stuff to someone who is not deserving, that is why I only act on those with malicious intent.


Here is an example
I will have my revenge if somone screws me with malice.
A person narced on me to try to get me busted with some weed when I was 18 out of malice. He was a weasily little troll that liked getting people in trouble. Fast forward 10 years later, the person has a decent job and is married. He didnt know what hit him, he loses his job, he is getting divorced and his niehgbors think he is a degenerate. I wont destroy a family of the target if he has kids and he didnt plus he was fooling around on his wife which made it easy to get him busted by her He tried to destroy me so I waited and ran some revenge techniques and destroyed him on multiple levels. If someone screws me with no malice, that is one thing but if there is malice then I will hitback harder with malice spite and revenge. I did the same to some ******* who sexually harrassed my girlfriend, pawed her, tried to keep her from leaving and forced her to quit and made her misrable and depressed. I have ran a few revenge operations to varying degrees depending on the level they tried to screw me or someone I cared for, it can range from mere headaches and embarrasment to destruction of their life. These are real *******s who have it coming to them. I still have a few people on my hit list and I will wait years to act in many cases.

One of the things I did to the guy above harrased my girlfriend is send a letter to all his neighbors and say he is a pedofile sicko. Another great tequnique is to use photoshop magic, put an add in the sleasiest sex/swinger mag such as seeking animal sex partners and then send copies of the mag to family, friends, ministers, co workers ect ect.

[GI Joe]

ethics code for revenge

One cannot say that revenge is mean or cruel, just as one cannot say that one who engages in it is a bad person. Revenge is merely one person's idea of "justice", and therefore it is always "justifiable", if only to the person performing it, who is retaliating for a wrong they believe has been done to them. Absent evidence to the contrary, or inappropriate use of force by them, there are few people who have a moral leg to stand on; if you've never felt the urge to avenge a wrong done to you or someone you care for, you've led a rather shallow life.

So how do we determine what level of force is appropriate? One may look at an act of vengeance and say that the magnitude of the revenge is unjustified, but this will always be determined by your particular idea of what would be appropriate. Traditionally, from ancient Iceland to feudal times and even today, the avenger takes matters personally in hand and fights back at the one that has done him wrong. It's a justice system where the avenger functions as judge, jury and executioner. There are no "disinterested third parties"; merely one who has done wrong, and one who retaliates. (I've included the possibility of avenging a wrong done to someone you care for, which can motivate you to strike back even more than if you were the victim.) In any event, the avenger should the one that "really knows what has been going on", and is therefore justified in his actions.

Looking at the justice system in most countries of today reveals many holes, which occasionally happen to protect the one who has done wrong as well as the one who would seek vengeance. Attempting to strike back through these established government monopoly channels is generally of little use and just as dangerous to you as to your target, especially in certain cases. Perhaps the matter is considered too small or unimportant for the court to take notice of (e.g., a salesperson is incredibly, offensively rude to you); or the legal system is explicitly set up so as to protect the target (e.g., when the target enjoys special immunity from liability, as in the case of the American nuclear power industry); or there is insufficient proof (your word against theirs); or the matter is intensely personal (such as a trusted friend betraying you in a way which is more detrimental to your state of mind than your immediate physical health or safety).

Thinking up a plan or scheme is only half of revenge; actually doing it is another thing. In some cases, fantasizing, joking with friends or producing fictional accounts of one's plans may be catharsis enough. But if you truly intend on following through, you need to justify your actions...to yourself! What consequences will befall the target? More importantly, what will happen to you? (Even if you pull it off beautifully, it won't be very satisfying if you end up in jail or dead.) Will the scheme improve the overall situation? Will the target's wrongdoings change or cease? Or do you just want to make them suffer? Or do you want to make an example out of them?

You can think of revenge as being of four different severity levels:


1: Mild. Usually better described as a prank or shenanigan, but having a purpose other than simple annoyance. This sort of action is more often legal than not; if illegal, it is harder to prove and more likely to be simply dismissed for lack of evidence, or in extreme cases, laughed out of the courtroom.

2: Memorable. More serious revenge, occasionally involving destruction of property (an automobile, a prize vegetable garden). Actions such as these are illegal in most jurisdictions, but they are still hard to prove unless you are very careless or very unlucky.

3: Up Close and Personal. These schemes are aimed directly at the person, including but not limited to bodily injuries, foreboding threats and the like. These are more difficult to perform without being discovered. Revenge becomes more personal. This is illegal, but with luck and planning it is still possible to escape detection.

4: Serious and/or Permanent. The target's life is never quite the same after an incident of this magnitude. Where level 3 might be a blow to the target's face, we are now talking about changing the face, leaving scars physical and/or psychological for life, and perhaps ending their life. This is almost always highly illegal, and authorities generally exert a great deal of resources and effort into apprehending the responsible parties.

Levels 1 and 2 are the most commonly used. If you are considering level 3 or 4, you should think long and hard about why you are doing it, what you hope to gain from it, and if the price you might pay will be worth it.
There is usually always some discussion on alt.revenge about revenge on animals, trees or other such non-human entities. If you look in The Avenger's Handbook, you will find few or no such schemes, because as humans, we cannot hold inanimate objects, or even animals, for their actions. A dog's natural instinct is to bark, and the instinct may be suppressed if the owner knows how to train and treat the dog, but if the owner is clueless the dog will continue to bark. In this case, the owner is your target, because he is the one responsible for not properly taking care of the animal. Before you consider a scheme of this nature, look at animals as you would look on small children. You don't give poison to a child if it cries.

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[GI Joe]

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Possibly the most important aspect to consider is what might happen to you. Many revenge schemes are conceived in the heat of the moment, or executed blindly in a fit of rage. When the pain of your wounds is fresh, you are more likely to misjudge the appropriateness of your retaliation. You are in no shape to think at a time like this. Despite the momentary pain it may cause, try to let the storm pass. Realize that someone who has wronged you this deeply is not worth your throwing your life in the garbage. If you can relax, you will be more capable of accurately assessing your situation. You may come up with a less extreme scheme, but equally as good. You can wait weeks, months and even years, getting your life back into shape and taking the time to plan it right. Then, you can strike when the target least expects it.

Some mention must be made of the never-ending battle scenario, where someone strikes back at you because he discovers that you struck back at him, usually with greater force. Whether the magnitude of the vengeance increases or stays the same, the result is usually the same: You're in a blood feud, Hatfield and McCoy style. In the time of the Vikings, if one person killed a member of another family, that family went to the first family and killed one of them. The first family would then go back to the second and kill another one, to avenge their loss. Sometimes the matter would be settled. Sometimes, everyone on both sides ended up dead.

You may recognize this as the same sort of **** happening in the Middle East these days. This is a very unfortunate situation. The best way to handle this sort of thing is not to start it in the first place. Maybe this is the best argument for level 1 and 2. You'll have to decide for yourself.

Some people merely want to make an example of the target. Maybe they want to humiliate them in front of lots of people; maybe they just want to demontrate power, pure and simple. This can be much more effective if the target is a blackmailer or other similar "mind criminal", or if you want to leave an indelible impression and make sure they know not to **** with you twice. After a level 3 or 4 vengeance, if the target doesn't discover your identity and retaliate in kind, they will generally cease to be a problem for you, if they are able to recover.

The four main tenets of the ideal revenge:


1. Do unto others as they do unto you. (Let the punishment fit the crime.)
2. Don't involve innocents. (Don't hurt someone unless they hurt you.)
3. Be prepared to be caught. (Always imagine a worst case scenario.)
4. Think before you drink. (Think before you do, period.)
Not everyone cares about rules or ethics. In fact, a lot of people don't believe there is, or should be, any such thing as "real ethics". As one person said, "If somebody pisses in my mouth, I am not going to call it rain, I'm going to call it piss." Revenge is almost always done in cases of extreme emotional outburst. It's a natural reaction when pushed to the wall: People are going to try to get the other person back so hard it hurts, mentally, emotionally, maybe physically.
One may not personally agree with all forms of revenge. If someone advocates a form of revenge that you feel is a little (or way) beyond the bonds of rationality, and you disagree with them, don't be afraid to speak up. Try to understand their motivations, but if you know someone is wrong, tell them so.

Ethical debate as practiced on alt.revenge, and on the entire Net, is just that: debate. Nobody can hit you over the Net, or hang you from a tree until you're dead, or burn your house down. That's one of the best things about it.

To sum up: Think. And do the right thing... or at least try to.

[GI Joe]

Some things to think about and some good rules


The eleven commandments are from the master George Hayduke. I have actually broke #1 in a way by telling the story but it has no names and is vague

the eleven commandments of revenge

From the book "Revenge tactics from the master" by George Hayduke



Thou shalt neither trust nor confide in anyone!
If you do, that person could eventually betray you. Even if it is a relative or spouse, don't tell anybody what you are up to. Implicated accomplices are OK.

Thou shalt never use thy own telephone or revenge business!
Always use a public telephone or that of an unwitting mark so calls cannot be traced back to you or to someone who knows you.

Thou shalt not touch revenge documents with thy bare hands!
Bare hands leave fingerprints. Wear gloves.

Thou shalt become a garbage collector!
Once your victim places his trash outside his house or office for pickup, it is legal for you to pick it up yourself. You can learn a lot about your mark by sitting through his papers and such. The pros do it all the time.

Thou shalt bide thy time before activating a revenge plot!
Give the victim time to forget about you and what he's done to wrong you. Getting even too soon makes it easier for him to discover who's doing it.

Thou shalt secure a "mail drop" address in another city!
You don't want revenge mail being traced back to your recidence/home, do you?

Thou shalt learn everything there is to know about thy victim!
The best revenge schemes or plans are hatched by people who know their victims better than their victims know themselves.

Thou shalt pay cash all the time in a revenge plot!
Checks, money orders, and other paper transfers can be traced back to you. Cash cannot.

Thou shalt trade with merchants who have never heard of you!
Do business with people only once when involved in a revenge plot. You can wear a disguise so the people you are involved with will have trouble identifying you in a legal confrontation.

Thou shalt never threaten thy victim!
Why warn your intended victim that you are going to get even? When bad things begin to happen to your victim - wether or not you caused them - your victim will remember your threat, and he or she will set out to even the score with you.

Thou shalt not leave evidence laying around, however circumstantional!
If you are thought to be actively engaged in having fun at your mark's expense, the authorities may visit you. Thus, it would be prudent not to have any of my books at home or in the office. Note well what Francois de La Rochefoucauld wrote in Maximes, "The height of cleverness is to be able to conceal it."





other rules Ideas


1. Get mad....then get even. It's justice, plain and simple.

2. Revenge is healthy. Don't listen to those mealymouths who tell you otherwise. You're teaching people to behave better. At the same time you're getting icky poisonous feelings out of your system once and for all. What could be healthier?

3. Remember, Karma is a good thing. Be sure everyone gets his or hers...in this lifetime. You're helping to bring the scales of justice back into balance and restore order to the universe.

4. Revenge is excellent self-therapy. It's far cheaper than a therapist and much healthier than pigging out on a box of donuts.

5. The punishment should always fit the crime. In other words, don't go nuclear over something trivial.

6. Always aim your revenge where it hurts the most. Go right for the jugular.

7. Let your creativity blossom. Don't go for cliches like slashing tires. Yawn. Be original. Enjoy yourself. Give your mark an experience they'll never ever forget.

8. Don't break the law.

9. If you have to do something you're not proud of, be sure to cover your tracks well.

10. Have fun. If you can end up laughing at the jerk who wronged you, you're well on your way to being over it.

11. Once revenge is consummated, move on. It's over.



You can never take back revenge. Revenge is the final resting place for any interaction you may ever have with the person you have as your target. There is no going back.
{} When setting up revenge protect yourself first. Always, ALWAYS write down the events that happen to you that may require later revenge. Dates, times, people's names. You may need them for one thing or another.
{} Revenge is revenge. Revenge requires anonymity. If you're going to say "Ha ha, in your face!" or "I got you good!" you don't want revenge, go look to prank the person instead at some other website.
{} Revenge takes time. Revenge is best served cold. Revenge is a tough meat that needs to stew for a very long time before being it is ready to be served effectively.

[GI Joe]

Speaking of tech stuff here are some great personal electronic harassment/revenge products that work great. I have used some on various occasions to extract revenge


SONIC NAUSEA

Sonic Nausea is a small electronic device which can really turn one's stomach. It generates a unique combination of ultra-high frequency soundwaves which soon leads most in its vicinity to queasiness. It can also cause headaches, intense irritation, sweating, imbalance, nausea, or even vomiting. Hiding this device in your inconsiderate neighbor's house might put an end to their late-night parties. The abusive bureaucrat's office, the executive lunchroom... the possibilities are endless for that small portion of inventive payback. The unique soundwave characteristics make directional source determination difficult. Powered by one 9-volt battery (not included). For extended run time six AA batteries in a battery pack with transistor clips (available from most electronics stores) can be used instead. Use with extreme discretion.

MIND MOLESTER

The Mind Molester is an instrument of creative electronic harassment. It's an electronic audio device that can drive your victims nuts trying to figure out what it is and where it's at. You can drive somebody crazy in their own house or disrupt an entire office. They will become obsessed, awaiting the next sound burst to try to determine its location, completely disrupting their normal activities. Due to the duration, frequency, and sound characteristics, it's a very difficult, time-consuming, and frustrating task to locate the unit. And even if found, they'll have no idea what it is (great to set off that paranoid subject's imagination). Just plant the Mind Molester in an appropriate location. It produces a very short but powerful 90dB 4.5 KHz sound burst. This latest version features completely random intervals between activations; they'll vary from 4 to 12 minutes, making them non-predictable and even more maddening! Powered by three AAA batteries (not included), its low power consumption allows for extensive operating life. Additionally, its unique software code shifts the frequency when the batteries drain, allowing the unit to continue to operate with an even louder sound output. Warning: this device is for deployment on deserving subjects only, of course.



DEAD RINGER

This device prevents the phones from ringing on incoming calls. The calling party just hears the phone ringing and ringing, but it's never answered since the phones are silent on the target's end so they have no idea that someone is calling them. Answering machines, Fax machines, and even voice mail - none of these will pick up either. Yet outgoing calls are completely unaffected and go through normally! The target has no idea there's anything wrong, they'll just begin to think that they've become very unpopular as nobody calls them anymore, or even leaves them messages. If installation of this device happens to be on a business line, the potential consequences are even greater. Installs anywhere along the telephone line; it comes with both a modular plug connector (to fit in standard telephone jacks) and spade-lugs connector for installations in unconventional, difficult-to-find locations. Size: 2.5" x 1" x .75".

These devices are from a group of products which were developed for a special unit of a particular federal agency whose requirements included having capabilities of telephonically-based harassment campaigns which could be quickly and easily implemented as a component of certain covert operations. Some of those products are now offered for non-government sales for the first time. These are unique specialized devices which have few, if any, conventional applications. These are electronic tools for those who require innovative, serious revenge/harassment capabilities, or for those who just have an interest in unusual telephone devices. Designed for use on single-line telephone systems.

WARNING: these devices are to be used only in a legal and lawful manner in compliance with all applicable laws and F.C.C. regulations, which should be consulted prior to connection of any equipment to telephone lines.


DISCONNECTED NUMBER

Like the device above, this unit prevents the phones from ringing during incoming calls. The target has no idea that someone is calling, and so they'll miss all of their calls. Answering machines, Fax machines and voice mail also will not activate, but outgoing calls are completely unaffected and go through normally. But with this unit, instead of getting just unanswered ringing, callers to the target phone are diverted to a telephone company disconnect message! ("We're sorry, you have reached a number that has been disconnected or is no longer in service . . .") Just imagine the incredible havoc this could create. The potential consequences of this device being installed on a business telephone line are even more staggering. Installs anywhere along the telephone line; it comes with both a modular plug connector (to fit in standard telephone jacks) and spade-lugs connector for installations in unconventional, difficult-to-find locations. Size: 2.75" x 1" x .75".

These devices are from a group of products which were developed for a special unit of a particular federal agency whose requirements included having capabilities of telephonically-based harassment campaigns which could be quickly and easily implemented as a component of certain covert operations. Some of those products are now offered for non-government sales for the first time. These are unique specialized devices which have few, if any, conventional applications. These are electronic tools for those who require innovative, serious revenge/harassment capabilities, or for those who just have an interest in unusual telephone devices. Designed for use on single-line telephone systems.

[GI Joe]

Some none Tech products
These "special ingredients" are just what you may need in some "special situations". Manufactured under contract by DSG Laboratories to fulfill the occasional unusual operational requirement of CIA and other federal agents, these products are now available for non-governmental sale. Use only with utmost discretion.



DOO DROPS

Doo Drops look and smell just like real diarrhea. Many useful applications, all of which will be left to your imagination. It's just like a tube of explosive diarrhea, except silent for stealth deployments. It comes in a handy dropper-top squeeze dispenser for rapid, realistic applications. All-natural. SMELLS LIKE CRAP.


HELLFIRE & BRIMSTONE


Don't get this vial of concentrated discomfort on you! It itches, it stings, it burns. It's like thousands of fire ants biting you all at once. The only good news about it is that it eventually stops. For external use only. Warning: not to be used on others without their consent.


PURPLE RAIN



Purple Rain starts out as an innocent-looking dark green powder, but when it comes in contact with any moisture, watch out! This stuff keeps coming out with a seemingly endless supply of dark purple stain. Imagine a sprinkle of it in a strategic spot in the bathroom, the doormat where people wipe their wet shoes, the swimming pool area, the drinking fountain, etc. Caution: this will stain most anything - use only with extreme caution and discretion.


LIQUID ROADKILL



Before you use this incredibly foul putrifier, take a moment to reflect on all the roadkill left out in the scorching sun. With this nice little vial, you now have the ability to creatively re-create this special odor at a time and place of your choosing.

GREEN GAS



Empty this little vial into a hot drink or hot food, wait about 10 minutes, and stand back! The natural herb in this elixir will cause major "natural gas" explosions every few seconds. No matter how hard your mark tries to hold back, there's no stopping these embarrassing eruptions. Warning: not to be used on others without their consent.


NASTY YELLOW TEETH



Just pour this into a drink container (soda, coffee, etc.). Once your target finishes his drink, his mouth, teeth and tongue will have turned a most vomit-retching puke-yellow color! And he won't even know it, at least until he sees the horrified looks on other's faces as they try to keep from tossing their own cookies. "A drink before your speech, Mayor?"


LIQUID NIGHTMARE

When Liquid Nightmare meets up with liquid, it takes on a life of its own! It begins to convert water-based liquids into a slippery blob-like gel material. Potential uses are limited only by your imagination and deviancy, but be careful because these nasty little crystals can lead to everything from sticky plumbing situations to distressed goldfish owners.

[eugene40]

See joe, I am just not that underhanded, I am a more direct, in your face kind of guy. But as for revenge goes. The best is from the father of it all.

"Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared."
Niccolo Machiavelli

He means with revenge they are supposed to know you did it. And it must be so great, that they wouldn't even think about trying anything with you again. People that I have had to take revenge on, knew full well that I did it too them. And they would never even dream of trying to get back at me.

But I prefer a more honorable approach. If we could only go back to the days of sabres at dawn. The world would be a much better place.