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Essendon
10-19-2008, 09:10 AM
http://www.infoworld.com/news/feeds/08/10/13/No-opt-out-of-filtered-Internet.html?source=gs
Disgrace of the highest order! :mad: When did Labor become so facist :(
muffins
10-19-2008, 09:18 AM
I don't think even the Chinese are doing that.
BrokenDoors
10-19-2008, 12:33 PM
Australians are pretty censor-happy.
AgentM
10-19-2008, 12:47 PM
I heard about this. Sounds like BS to me!
Essendon
10-20-2008, 09:33 AM
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Daewoo
10-20-2008, 11:54 AM
What exactly is "illegal content"?
rjamortega
10-20-2008, 08:07 PM
http://www.infoworld.com/news/feeds/08/10/13/No-opt-out-of-filtered-Internet.html?source=gs
Disgrace of the highest order! :mad: When did Labor become so facist :(
What's the worry? I thought Global Warming was the most serious crisis facing man!?!?
Essendon
10-24-2008, 02:21 AM
Filtering out the fury: how government tried to gag web censor critics
Asher Moses
October 24, 2008 - 7:00AM
The Federal Government is attempting to silence critics of its controversial plan to censor the internet, which experts say will break the internet while doing little to stop people from accessing illegal material such as child pornography.
Internet providers and the government's own tests have found that presently available filters are not capable of adequately distinguishing between legal and illegal content and can degrade internet speeds by up to 86 per cent.
Documents obtained by us show the office of the Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, tried to bully ISP staff into suppressing their criticisms of the plan.
Senator Conroy has since last year's election victory remained tight-lipped on the specifics of his $44.2 million policy but, grilled by a Senate Estimates committee this week, he said the Government was looking at forcing ISPs to implement a two-tiered filtering system.
The first tier, which internet users would not be able to opt out of, would block all "illegal material". Senator Conroy has previously said Australians would be able to opt out of any filters to obtain "uncensored access to the internet".
The second tier, which is optional, would filter out content deemed inappropriate for children, such as pornography.
But neither filter tier will be capable of censoring content obtained over peer-to-peer file sharing networks, which account for an estimated 60 per cent of internet traffic.
Senator Conroy said Britain, Sweden, Canada and New Zealand had all implemented similar filtering systems. However, in all cases, participation by ISPs was optional and the filtering was limited in scope to predominantly child pornography.
Colin Jacobs, chair of the online users' lobby group Electronic Frontiers Australia said: "I'm not exaggerating when I say that this model involves more technical interference in the internet infrastructure than what is attempted in Iran, one of the most repressive and regressive censorship regimes in the world."
Critics of the ISP-level filtering plan say software filters installed by the user on their PC, which are already provided by the government for free at netalert.gov.au, are more than adequate.
Mark Newton, an engineer at Internode, has heavily criticised the Government and its filtering policy on the Whirlpool broadband community forum, going as far as saying it would enable child abuse.
He said the plan would inevitably result in significant false positives and degrade internet speeds tremendously. Those views were subsequently widely reported by technology media and blogs.
Although Newton identified himself as an employee of Internode - as Whirlpool's rules stipulate - he always maintained his views were personal opinions and not necessarily shared by the company.
On Tuesday, a policy advisor for Senator Conroy, Belinda Dennett, wrote an email to Internet Industry Association (IIA) board member Carolyn Dalton in an attempt to pressure Newton into reining in his dissent.
"In your capacity as a board member of the IIA I would like to express my serious concern that a IIA member would be sending out this sort of message. I have also advised [IIA chief executive] Peter Coroneos of my disappointment in this sort of irresponsible behaviour ," the email, read.
It is understood the email was accompanied by a phone call demanding that the message be passed on to senior Internode management.
Newton said he found the bullying "outrageous" and Senator Conroy was "misusing his influence as a Commonwealth Minister to intimidate a private dissenting citizen into silencing his political views".
A spokesman for Senator Conroy said Newton's accusation that the Government was promoting child abuse was "disappointing and irresponsible". He said the purpose of the email was "to establish whether Mr Newton's views were consistent with the IIA position".
Ironically, Senator Conroy has himself accused critics of his filtering policy of supporting child pornography - including Greens Senator Scott Ludlam in Senate Estimates this week.
ACMA released a report in July detailing the results of laboratory tests of six unnamed ISP-level filters.
Only one of the filters tested resulted in an acceptable speed reduction of 2 per cent or less. The others caused drops in speed between 21 per cent and 86 per cent.
The tests showed the more accurate the filtering, the bigger the impact on network performance.
However, none of the filters were completely accurate. They allowed access to between 2 per cent and 13 per cent of material that should have been blocked, and wrongly blocked between 1.3 per cent and 7.8 per cent of websites that should have been allowed.
"Why would you want to damage the performance and utility of the internet and not actually keep the bad stuff out anyway," said John Lindsay, carrier relations manager at Internode.
In Senate Estimates, Senator Ludlam expressed concern that all sorts of politically-sensitive material could be added to the block list and otherwise legitimate sites - for example, YouTube - could be rendered inaccessible based on content published by users.
"The black list ... can become very grey depending on how expansive the list becomes - euthanasia material, politically related material, material about anorexia. There is a lot of distasteful stuff on the internet," he said.
Despite this, the Government - which distanced itself from the tests by saying they were initiated by the previous government - is pressing ahead with live trials of the filtering system and will shortly seek expressions of interest from ISPs keen to participate.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/filtering-out-the-fury/2008/10/23/1224351430987.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
Conroy is a ****wit :mad:
bowerbird
10-24-2008, 04:23 AM
Okay Ess - let me play "devil's advocate" here.
A while back I was the victim of a "virus-bot" thingy that attached to Windows Explorer and every time I loaded windows I got "treated" to porn "pop=ups". Gross!!! Sorry but seeing a semi-naked woman in the lithotomy position is NOT appealing to me. Anyway, had there been something to prevent me becoming a victim of that sort of spam I would gladly opt in.
There is a LOT of concern about what kids are accessing on the net
But still I cannot think but that Conroy needs to first find his own bum before dabbling in the internet
mataj
10-24-2008, 07:43 AM
Okay Ess - let me play "devil's advocate" here.
A while back I was the victim of a "virus-bot" thingy that attached to Windows Explorer and every time I loaded windows I got "treated" to porn "pop=ups". Gross!!! Sorry but seeing a semi-naked woman in the lithotomy position is NOT appealing to me. Anyway, had there been something to prevent me becoming a victim of that sort of spam I would gladly opt in.
There is a LOT of concern about what kids are accessing on the net
But still I cannot think but that Conroy needs to first find his own bum before dabbling in the internetOh, you are still here! Glad they haven't censored you out.
Censorship is not about protecting kiddies, and it certainly won't prevent spam. It's about silencing you, not spammers.
roderic
10-24-2008, 08:21 AM
Anyway, had there been something to prevent me becoming a victim of that sort of spam I would gladly opt in.The key point is "opt", which is not part of Conroy's proposal
There is a LOT of concern about what kids are accessing on the netYes, but should the government therefore censor the net for everybody? :confused:
The_Penguin
10-24-2008, 07:56 PM
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/10/24/197215.shtml Our future Democratic party administration will surely embrace measures such as this as well.
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/10/24/0224239.shtml And here's what ./ has to say about this.
Move along citizen.
The_Penguin
10-24-2008, 07:58 PM
Okay Ess - let me play "devil's advocate" here.
A while back I was the victim of a "virus-bot" thingy that attached to Windows Explorer and every time I loaded windows I got "treated" to porn "pop=ups". Gross!!! Sorry but seeing a semi-naked woman in the lithotomy position is NOT appealing to me. Anyway, had there been something to prevent me becoming a victim of that sort of spam I would gladly opt in.
There is a LOT of concern about what kids are accessing on the net
But still I cannot think but that Conroy needs to first find his own bum before dabbling in the internet
Bower, 2 things.
1) Get a different browser and stop running your PC with admin privileges.
2) It doesn't do jack against the spammers. Absolutely jack squat. Even after this is implemented, you'll still get that crap on your PC.
The_Penguin
10-24-2008, 07:59 PM
http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/77/108/514264207/n514264207_860316_8085.jpg
Wow, you and I are actually agreeing on something. Scary, isn't it?
AgentM
10-25-2008, 02:07 PM
Australia's plan to subject every Internet user in the country to mandatory content filtering just keeps getting stranger. Although the current government says it simply inherited the program from its predecessor and that the filtering will be voluntary, it seems intent on continuing the rollout plans even as it has become apparent that some level of filtering will be mandatory. Now, an Australian newspaper has uncovered documents showing that the government minister responsible for the program has ignored performance and accuracy problems with the filters, then tried to suppress criticism of the plan by private citizens.
The filtering plan as it now appears consists of two tiers. One would apply to all Australian Internet access and would block access to content deemed illegal (though how that term will be defined hasn't yet been disclosed). A second tier would be switched on by default, but users would be allowed to opt-out; this tier would target content inappropriate for children.
Back in June, however, the government's own Communications and Media Authority issued a report on tests on some of the equipment that might be used to implement the filters. Although the report puts a positive spin on the results—"Hey, the tech has gotten better since we last looked, in 2005!"—it's hard to get around the fact that the filters simply aren't that great. Five of the six filters degraded network performance by over 20 percent, and two simply hammered the network, dropping throughput by more than 75 percent.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081024-aussie-govt-dont-criticize-our-terrible-net-filters.html
Nuke the Oil
10-30-2008, 07:04 AM
Australian parochialism strikes again. The government will protect you from all the internet nasties. Of course they will. A bunch of old farts who probably don't know a mouse from their rear end will keep all those nasty 'illegal' websites away.
They certainly won't use this to suppress anything politically controversial, surely not, right?
rjamortega
10-30-2008, 08:02 PM
Ohhh my, this is not good. You folks are still wasting important time, energy and intelligence worrying about the internet while man continues to destroy the planet.
We're doomed.:(
Essendon
11-13-2008, 11:29 AM
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