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xexon
11-18-2003, 11:16 AM
Jesus was a man ahead of his time.

He had long hair. He spoke about peace and love. He had a problem with government authority.

He was a radical.

In this country, in the modern day.

Alot of you folks would call him a hippy.



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Simon666
11-18-2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by xexon
Jesus was a man ahead of his time.

He had long hair.
Is that in the Bible or is that because he is always depicted like that ever since around the first couple of centuries of the first millenium?

gopman
11-18-2003, 01:36 PM
He didn't smoke weed or support communism.

Captain America
11-18-2003, 01:49 PM
gopman, you can't be for real. Support communism?:p :p :p

You sound like Archie Bunker old friend.

:p :p :p


"Stifle yourself Edith! You commie meathead!"
*************************** Archie Bunker-RIP

up2date
11-18-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Captain America
gopman, you can't be for real. Support communism?:p :p :p

You sound like Archie Bunker old friend.

:p :p :p


"Stifle yourself Edith! You commie meathead!"
*************************** Archie Bunker-RIP :rofl:

I don't know if I reminded you lately that you are consistently the funniest person on the board.

Captain America
11-18-2003, 01:53 PM
It takes a sense of humor to get by these days my friend. sometimes I laugh just to keep from crying.:(

funniest person on the board.

In all fairness however, I should mention that being funny is what I get paid to do. I am an entertainer. Although, some people don't find me humorous at all, Especially when my humorous exposure hits them close to home.

I love George Carlin. In the name of comedy, he presents issues that need addressing in a humorous light. He, sir, is pure comedy genious, not to mention "the ultimate hippy" as well.

Simon666
11-18-2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by gopman
He didn't smoke weed or support communism.
Giving everything you have away to the poor sounds more like communism than capitalism to me. I don't know about you, maybe you just refused to read that part of the Bible.

Captain America
11-18-2003, 02:05 PM
When Jesus taught to give to Ceaser what belongs to Ceaser, I read that to mean, let the government be the government. that is not what is important. "Give to God what belongs to God" alludes to seperating ones spirituality from politics. I don't think Jesus even thought in political terms. he was more focused on the spiritual aspects of life. I believe that one can be charitable regardless of what political system they live under.

Listen to me... I am speaking as if I know what I am talking about, which I clearly do not! I sound like someone who is putting creedence into what Little Red Riding Hood or Santa Clause might have said.

I need a vacation.

Simon666
11-18-2003, 02:10 PM
As I suspected already, the Bible does not say Jezus had long hair. (http://www.execulink.com/~wblank/looklike.htm)

Captain America
11-18-2003, 02:29 PM
Well, as it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the shroud of Turin is not and could not have been the shroud of Jesus. Some scholars are suggesting that it belonged to a guy named Jaque De Molay now. But that is not what is in question in this thread.

The bible does state that it is a womans glory to have long hair and a shame for a man.

Does it not say that Jesus's hair was long and flowing?

I'll bet he was a short, fat, little bald guy. Any takers?:lol:

gopman
11-18-2003, 02:35 PM
It sounds like personal charity to me, and that doesn't happen in communism. It's a case of moral inertia. Another interesting topic...

Simon666
11-18-2003, 02:39 PM
That way you never get rich by giving all earthy possessions away. While getting rich is one aspect of capitalism, and getting poor has been an aspect of all communist countries so far. Quod erat demonstrandum: Jesus ideology is closer to communism than capitalism.

cpwill
11-18-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Captain America
When Jesus taught to give to Ceaser what belongs to Ceaser, I read that to mean, let the government be the government. that is not what is important. "Give to God what belongs to God" alludes to seperating ones spirituality from politics. I don't think Jesus even thought in political terms. he was more focused on the spiritual aspects of life. I believe that one can be charitable regardless of what political system they live under.

Listen to me... I am speaking as if I know what I am talking about, which I clearly do not!


actually, CA, you are pretty close.


as for hair, the bible changes on that; later they tell women to keep their hair up because letting one's hair down in public meant one was a prostitute.

Jesus was certainly what we would call short; however, i doubt he was fat; he walked alot and doesn't seem to have been what you might call "economically wealthy" and had a pretty physically strenous job. i'd bet he was in fairly good shape.

gopman
11-18-2003, 05:11 PM
Like I said communism creates moral inertia. Jesus taught to be charitable under one's own volition.

xexon
11-18-2003, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Simon666
As I suspected already, the Bible does not say Jezus had long hair. (http://www.execulink.com/~wblank/looklike.htm)

I have read a letter, from a Roman soldier to his commanding officer, that gives a detail physical description of Jesus.

The book is something I read about 30 years ago. Don't recall the name of the particular document, but it can probably be found on the internet somewhere now.

I remember the description as saying Jesus has shoulder length hair of a copper color, that fell about his shoulders in loose ringlets.

I also remember it saying he had grey eyes, was of medium height and stature, and had well formed hands.



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xexon
11-18-2003, 07:06 PM
Jesus was considered a criminal, so a physical description is just a matter of fact for the Roman police.



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Simon666
11-19-2003, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by xexon
I have read a letter, from a Roman soldier to his commanding officer, that gives a detail physical description of Jesus. The book is something I read about 30 years ago. Don't recall the name of the particular document, but it can probably be found on the internet somewhere now.
Many forgeries were made in medieval times, such as the shroud. There were/are probably enough splinters of Jezus cross around to assemble 20 crosses. :D So be warned.

gopman
11-20-2003, 12:19 PM
"gopman, you can't be for real"

Wrestlers and hippies don't get along. ;)

Captain America
11-20-2003, 07:40 PM
You lost me on that one gopman. Do you like wrestling?

gopman
11-20-2003, 11:50 PM
I'm the best wrestler I know. I made a kid cry in a match my senior year in high school. That's a 4 point nearfall.

cpwill
11-21-2003, 12:21 AM
i know a kid who could beat ya. he was kicked off the wrestling team because in competition he broke opponents bones 3 times in a row.

Captain America
11-21-2003, 07:15 AM
Personally, I have no interest in rubbing up against sweaty men. But you go boy! <snap>

Now maybe some mud wrestling with a couple of chicks in bikini's might be interesting. That's what us hippy's prefer.;)

udenjoe
11-21-2003, 07:34 AM
I don't care if Jesus had long hair or smoked weed. He certainly was no hippy. The hippy was come genetic outcast from the 60s. Today they are archeologist that interpret hippes in the wrong way. Or they are living dinosaurs.

xexon
11-21-2003, 03:18 PM
I live in an area of the country that still has a strong atttachment to the counterculture. You see grey haired hippies in The line at Walmart or the grocery store all the time.

For the most part, they are the kindest people I know of. Its not a two faced existance like alot of born- again types. They're genuine. They certainly mimic the path of Jesus more than any politician I've EVER met.


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cpwill
11-22-2003, 01:23 PM
(ahem) allow me to interpose; but the hippy culture was not reflective of either Jesus' beliefs or lifestyle. it' all very good to say hippy's are "nice", and perhaps some of them are. some of them, however, are not. just as some christians are nice and some are not. expecting any mere human to be perfect in all situations, however, is completely unrealistic.

xexon
11-22-2003, 03:26 PM
Hippies are alot like the Rastafarians in the fact they have alot of counterfeit among their numbers. They look the part, but its not in their heart. Same for any group.

One has to look beyond the package and examine the contents.



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